Oh, I definitely hope to get into pvp, or at least survival, at some point. Already joined a faction and killed a few mobs, hopefully I'm on the right track!I highly encourage you try it out!But you will realize that PvP is not really centered around lore and what you've known for ages by RP'ing as mages.
Could Massive Pvp Ever Be What It Was?
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Sevak
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Honestly f*** off
Have you ever considered that a lot of the community just doesn't like you? And frankly, they have a good reason not to. You're a complete love to anyone who raids you. I mean, you literally still talk crap about raptum in alliance chat because they lol raided you years ago. Since then, you've just whined about the PvP community and how toxic we are. The funny thing is, the PvP community has been mostly empty of flame for over a year. Most of the major sides are allied to each other, or at least friends. You, however, have been holding a grudge against pvpers because Raptum raided you a long enough time ago that a large portion of Raptum's members aren't even members anymore.
Jquaile is trolling, as are most of the other PvPers who screw with you, because you're still mad because PvPers don't want to play on your terms and have nice conversations before they raid. Because, believe it or not, we do something other than talk in chat and flame all day.
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Jes you're so right.
@Mecharic I raided you a few nights ago while you were having a PvP tournament and you flipped shit at me saying people like me don't want to help PvP grow on the server. You don't want PvP to be revived, you want it to be changed to fit your liking.
Lets be honest tho... for somebody who is clearly not one to be called a PVPer, @Mecharic set up a PVP tournament. And for you to raid his planned event and then blame him for being upset... that, in my opinion, is why he is kinda salty right now toward PVPers and would go so far as to be detrimental to its growth.
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It wasn't a known event. We raided people who were showing on a dynmap and I was basically accused of slaughtering a crowd of puppies
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Then we should get rid of them entirely.
Viscar
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It wasn't a planned event, just DomiHoes and Mecharic arguing at each other and taking it out in a warzone. It was quite entertaining though.
Typhenon
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Yeah to be fair it wasn't actually a PvP tournament, Domihoes and Mech had beef so they decided to fight it out, then a bunch of people wanted to watch and they just ended up fighting aswell, it honestly wasn't ruining any "planned event" there was almost zero effort put into it
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Non-Accepting? I think there is another community on this server like that. Rude & Toxic? I think there is another community on the server like that.
Its the RP Community if you have not realized.
I have seen many cases where people do not know a simple fact of lore, etc. and they get shunned by others and told to leave, so do not just call the PVP community toxic people, maybe if we both got along we could both help the server.
@Sevak @Mecharic @jes_ @Typhenon @Zacatero @jquaile
Its the RP Community if you have not realized.
I have seen many cases where people do not know a simple fact of lore, etc. and they get shunned by others and told to leave, so do not just call the PVP community toxic people, maybe if we both got along we could both help the server.
@Sevak @Mecharic @jes_ @Typhenon @Zacatero @jquaile
This is why I don't PvP. It's full of assholes. And my version of fun isn't clicking on some blocks.
W/e. This page is clearly off topic now, and I'd suggest that staff lock it.
Have fun everyone.
W/e. This page is clearly off topic now, and I'd suggest that staff lock it.
Have fun everyone.
BenRekt
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The fact that there are "sides" in the first place is the reason this server is dying. The server all started going downhill as soon as PvP and RP became so separate. I miss the original days of Massive where the major RP areas were all in the survival worlds.
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Just want to say I think this was an inadvertent of the staff's changes, NOT the staff's original intention (obviously).
BenRekt
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Wow, what an accepting, totally non-generalizing and non-toxic response. It's good to see how mature the RP community is, belittling anyone who doesn't have the exact same view of fun as they do.
Take a step back and realize that YOU are the one being toxic.
Actual PvP isn't planned tournaments and competitions, its raiding. Go out and raid.
Sigh, you're the reason theres a definite line/rivalry between RP'ers and PvP'ers. If not all, most of us, are not toxic at all, nor assholes. Your response is quite superficial. Before you stereotype a whole community, talk to a few of us one on one, maybe you'll change your mind.
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Like I said, RP Community ladies and gents.
Sorry some of us do not like to sit there for hours typing in minecraft chat.
Im sorry but I have to agree with
I have to agree with Parz1vol, PvPers are so toxic and they are so mean to me. Ever since I was slain by Yocasma I couldn't find myself. PvP has ruined my life and I wish that Massive would just ban all of the PvPers and let the RPers rejoice!
BenRekt
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Finally something constructive, get rid of those useless survival worlds while we're at it.
No, this entire post proves that there is enough toxicity to matter. What's the proverb? One bad apple spoils the bunch.
Kay? I'm not telling you to RP, so stop trying to make RPers survival or PvP.
The sarcasm here is lovely.
Lmao, if I wanted this much attention I would've posted in one of these toxicity posts before. I miss the 'Please Read The Subject Again' and 'Evil' ratings.
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And the same goes to you.
Kay? I'm not telling you to PVP, so stop trying to make PVPers RP or go to Regalia.
And the same goes to you.
And the same goes to you.
Kay? I'm not telling you to PVP, so stop trying to make PVPers RP or go to Regalia.
And the same goes to you.
Your way of thinking is horrible, along with the use of that proverb. Are you saying @/jquaile and @/benrekt haven't been civilized while displaying their thoughts? Sorry that we have opposing views and want to voice them. PvP'ers could generalize RP'ers as inconsiderate and selfish on every thread, but we keep our thoughts to ourselves and remain on topic. You should do the same. Suggest something useful instead of stereotyping.
I know
I'm not.
Ik.
No, I'm pointing more particularly to people that throw away lovey language because they're getting angry that their POV is being challenged or because people are just being assholes.
BenRekt
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Huh, I wonder how you would react if PvPers always felt the need to go into every RP based thread and commented about how toxic, unaccepting and just all around assholes RPers are (I don't actually think this, I like most RPers actually)? Maybe you would possibly become less tolerant of them? What if at every point they could, they generalized RP to a bunch of nerds typing in a chat box, just as PvP is generalized as a glorified clicking competition between toxic assholes? Why is it that almost every single thread that involves survival worlds is flooded with feedback from people who rarely even USE them much less engage in PvP?
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Sorry for propelling the toxicity, I just needed to point this out. It's a really annoying double standard that has been alive since RP and PvP became so split.
Slow down. The only time we started using rather foul language was when Mecharic started biasing his opinions because of a personal grudge. People on this thread were being assholes, giving us the right to be assholes back.
It'd suck. I agree.
A shame so many PvP threads are all like, "Hey, how do we get these assholes out of Regalia?"
Or be the better men/women/nonbinary, yeah?
Somebody say winner?
@Parz1vol you really should stop this. Its not helping anything or anybody and quite frankly the only thing its doing is making you look like a dumbass. You literally have nothing to add to this thread. Its one thing if you're posts were just on the opposing side of an argument, but you are here just to flame and start arguments. Plus it has been stated, by a very credible roleplayer, that the roleplay side is actually worse when it comes to flame and toxic and whatnot, so... you are insulting the PVPers for being a bad community for reasons that the RP community is worse of.
BenRekt
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Don't think there can be a winner in this situation, but I can tell you for certain it isn't the guy whose only purpose in the entire thread was to call a group of players in the community assholes.
I did not say that the RP community is any better, I know better than a lot. I've been here for a while, but recognize that this thread has derailed badly. No alternative options have been represented, and my point that there are assholes in PvP ruining it for many, is not suddenly nullified. I get it, RP sucks and is for nerds, but I feel like the attitude here is wrong. Minecraft PvP will always be the same, we just need to advertise more.
Me too bud.
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Right but...
This isnt the post of a player who wants to help this thread...
It had gotten off topic, and I indicated that those who had done so were assholes, and I suggested that the thread be closed.
Preferably in favor of a new one. The discussion is healthy, but it turned toxic.
Its poor forum etiquette to request that other people's threads be locked/deleted
BenRekt
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The thread was quite productive and on track, albeit with a personal grudge between Mecharic and Jquaile going on, but nonetheless productive points and arguments were still being made. You literally came in to announce that people are assholes and that the thread should be closed. In case you have realized, the last page that is full of arguments and toxicity were caused by you and you alone. Instead of derailing a thread and saying it should be deleted, maybe you could do the right thing and just delete your posts.
I agree, but this:
Was where things became toxic, and it had ruined the otherwise:
And yet what we have here is an agreement that:
And as a result, I will not delete my posts, because I have encouraged a redirection into the topic, rather than letting on with the toxicity. Realize we are in agreement and that I was intentionally blasphemous with my statement as to direct attention AWAY from the toxicity of butthurt people, the ones I was referring to with my statement.
Now how do we fix PvP. How do we encourage people that find it a simple system, such as myself, to participate. Key here being, without FORCING me to do so. From there, how do we encourage others from other servers to come here?
I have been saying for months that the PVP community needs to compromise on that perfect PVP scenario to allow it to be a bit more... inviting to those who dont currently PVP
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oh cool you decided to join the initial conversation we were having
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