Unfair New Pvp Raid "rules"

This hipster style thinking is what get several empires angry at you at once.
how is it "hipster thinking"? the point of joining an empire is to get help and defense. I don't want to join an empire just 'cause I'm lonley in my faction and want my chat spammed from ally chat
 
First of all. /c leave a

Second of all. It's difficult to even understand your side of this argument when your reasoning for not getting help.. Is basically that you don't want it.

So what I'm hearing is… "I don't want you to raid me since I don't want help."
 
I dont know where youre getting that I dont want help from. I want help, not just "We'll help you guis lel" and then when we get raided my "protectors" wank it and ignore me
 
I dont know where youre getting that I dont want help from. I want help, not just "We'll help you guis lel" and then when we get raided my "protectors" wank it and ignore me

Personally when I PvP, I don't even look at chat. Cordination wise, Vanos is much more fluid in skype calls. Most of your defenders use applications like skype or teamspeak to communicate and ignore server chat. If you're just yelling at them in ally chat or factiom chat, then that's really ineffective.
 
When IronGale was in the II, gene was in ally chat, speaking to people, over the course of 20 minutes I was asking him to help. after 5 he said "oops, its spoonly, allied" and so i said "well at least tell him to leave us alone, or threaten him or something" and he ignored me for the remaining 15 minutes.
 
When IronGale was in the II, gene was in ally chat, speaking to people, over the course of 20 minutes I was asking him to help. after 5 he said "oops, its spoonly, allied" and so i said "well at least tell him to leave us alone, or threaten him or something" and he ignored me for the remaining 15 minutes.
Threatening allys will lead to war thats why most people wont do it... im personally scared of spoon. i cant do any dmg to him and he just outsustains me :I hes a nice guy tho... im probable not the only person scared of him but meh either way (please dont take offence to gajeels post hes touch on this issue)
 
Threatening allys will lead to war thats why most people wont do it... im personally scared of spoon. i cant do any dmg to him and he just outsustains me :I hes a nice guy tho... im probable not the only person scared of him but meh either way (please dont take offence to gajeels post hes touch on this issue)
Topkek @spoonly
 
When IronGale was in the II, gene was in ally chat, speaking to people, over the course of 20 minutes I was asking him to help. after 5 he said "oops, its spoonly, allied" and so i said "well at least tell him to leave us alone, or threaten him or something" and he ignored me for the remaining 15 minutes.
sorry I didn't really understand much of this