Archived Hackusations, Trials & Punishment.

[Violettee]

Following Sirvan's ban, the Community has become aware of what they consider to be a flaw in the system and are concerned that the staff are relying on the wrong person's or one person's judgement against them in the field, furthermore when you can't even defend yourself because staff won't disclose with the player, the evidence against them.

During his fight with Winterless, Ieso and Edrom, Sirvan states that Winterless made a remark about his CPS. He later found himself banned whilst Dark-rooming, with nothing more to go on than "Cheat Client".

I would like to take this opportunity to say that we're all aware Sirvan's reputation in the past puts him personally at a disadvantage in this case but for the sake of the rest of the community, the system is a threat.

I would also like to point out many players feel the staff aren't aptly trained in spotting the signs of a legitimate hacker.

Players such as Winterless and Ieso have each been "hackusated", with recordings submitted to back up their claims. We feel many of these claims match what would have resulted in a ban on neighbouring servers - but for us was dismissed as being part of a "witch hunt".

What I'm asking: Instead of a player trying to conjure up evidence after an instance has occurred - When Staff feel they have reason to believe a player is hacking, they should summon the player in question to a meeting as part of their investigation, present the evidence against them or state what they are accused of (Hacked Client - KillAura, Reach, etc) and ask them to explain themselves.

Transparency in this department is vital to combat players claiming Staff bias, ignorance, inexperience or corruption.


Edit: The Account in question should be suspended until a verdict has been reached.

 

[Zacatero]

I understand exactly what is happening, Zacatero, and I don't appreciate you implying incompetence. The usage of screensharing is largely irrelevant, like Winter said, since it's not particularly hard to hide hacked clients.

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Then argue that its irrelevant.

You were saying that you thought your files would be accessed. I was saying that, factually, that is incorrect. Its not a matter of opinion, what you said was wrong. I wasn't implying incompetence, you brought that up. Please don't accuse me of insulting you when I was just correcting a major mistake in your argument that you were trying to use.

 

[MonMarty]

Going to lock thread, discussion has reached epic proportions of pointlessness. Thank you for suggesting @Violettee and @Kidmodo for helping me come to a conclusion. I'll @LumosJared as a reminder that I'd like my modified counter proposal to tbe brought at the meeting tomorrow.

• We maintain the current procedure.
• If the player has a Forum Account that is active or is in Massive Discord and approachable, Game staff will endeavor to contact the player to confront them, and allow for them to defend themselves within that 24 hours. Screenshare is optional, but not required.
• If after the ban either the banned player or anyone else in the community requests the evidence log either in AntiCheat hits or Youtube videos we grant them by direct linking, no hustling with MassiveCraft accounts and attempts to make the video maker anonymous, but we don't publicize anything unless it's a direct PM request from an individual.
• We create a very strict rule that covers anything we deem "harassment over having reported a player" which will not include war decs or other stuff like that, but mostly snide comments in general chat or on the forums to provoke someone for having reported their friend.

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