The Mag Threat Arises Again, Your Thoughts

Do you support Magnanimus with what they are doing?

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You're so hostile @Sollomon666. I think you just need to calm down. In the end, it's not like this thread is going to deter us from doing what we want. I don't dictate your time on the server. If you choose not to fight, sit inside like Wannag said and go do something else. Because of the way this server is, you kinda have to deal with raids if they come your way.
 
Blake1197 said:
yet the problem is Mag (which is the facton that started this whole charade) is the one faction who can PVP and Raid as they please with little stopping them.
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Then I guess you have your work cut out for you.
They took the time to get to where they are today. They put in the effort to not only PvP, but build and RP. If they can do it, so can you. The road isn't easy, but the paths worth treading are the ones that challenge us.
 
Wannag said:
Expansion, Conquest, Might and Power.
Those are perfectly good rp reasons are they not?
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when you guys already have might and power, is this really a raid reason? Because i do recall gethelp saying that u guys were bored when they were raiding my faction before. Forcing people to pvp when they dont want to pvp is wrong and will have serious issues in the future.
 
Oh really Alj? I couldn't agree with you more :). I am a hostile bastard when it comes to things I am passionate about, and this is one of those occasions. I should not have to stay inside and batten down the hatches just so people can have fun and ruin other players experiences. I have played on this server for more than two years now and I have just as much say as you @Alj23 in this convo, and it may not deter you, but it will show you that we will not sit idle as you have your fun and we are forced to go inside. I am outside, and that is where I am staying.
 
Blake you don't understand. It all goes back to the imperials. This signified a time of free pvp. It was an experience of no other. Sure they had "RP" aspects, but the objective was to kill noobs and take money. Now if something was attempted anywhere near the bounds of the Imperials. It would be illegal.
 
Sollomon666 said:
Oh really Alj? I couldn't agree with you more :). I am a hostile bastard when it comes to things I am passionate about, and this is one of those occasions. I should not have to stay inside and batten down the hatches just so people can have fun and ruin other players experiences. I have played on this server for more than two years now and I have just as much say as you @Alj23 in this convo, and it may not deter you, but it will show you that we will not sit idle as you have your fun and we are forced to go inside. I am outside, and that is where I am staying.
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So you're going to come outside and fight us? That's what we want...
 
I will not fight you with swords of diamond and Iron @Alj23 , I will fight you with the words of many a player who wish Mag to stop its course. I do not care if you raid the odd faction, but when players have no way of defending themselves and you go and attack them and demand money, that my friend, is where I draw the line on the server being fun and being abusive.
 
Sollomon666 said:
Oh really Alj?I should not have to stay inside and batten down the hatches just so people can have fun and ruin other players experiences.
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So what you're saying essentially is that you shouldn't have to be subjected to something perfectly legal on the server, and within the realm of the rules? Just want to clarify.
 
Sollomon666 said:
I will not fight you with swords of diamond and Iron @Alj23 , I will fight you with the words of many a player who wish Mag to stop its course. I do not care if you raid the odd faction, but when players have no way of defending themselves and you go and attack them and demand money, that my friend, is where I draw the line on the server being fun and being abusive.
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And I will ignore your words as you say you will ignore us. But in the end we will be raiding, and I guess that's a Win Win for us.
 
ooooh sollomon words hurt. lol. This is why the RP community is picked on. They decide to use the chat feature in an open sandbox game. I mean c'mon. You cannot get more open then this, and people use the bloody chat plugin as their main focus.
 
Let me clarify this then, I will not be subject to harassment, and neither will the people standing up against Mag. This may be in a sense legal @Alj23 , but that does not make it right. If you truly were ignoring my words, then you would not be responding in such a manner. Sure, you are defending what you believe in. That is fine. But when it involves me, and almost every other faction. I do think you would get some form of hint that doing this pisses off the server rather than uniting it.
 
Sollomon666 said:
Let me clarify this then, I will not be subject to harassment, and neither will the people standing up against Mag. This may be in a sense legal @Alj23 , but that does not make it right. If you truly were ignoring my words, then you would not be responding in such a manner. Sure, you are defending what you believe in. That is fine. But when it involves me, and almost every other faction. I do think you would get some form of hint that doing this pisses off the server rather than uniting it.
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If it is then I want to see a mass protest at my door. #occupydarkstar
 
Sollomon666 said:
Let me clarify this then, I will not be subject to harassment, and neither will the people standing up against Mag.
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Raiding them once a week for no more than two hours and then all we want if a war declaration is approved isn't harassment. Last time I checked, that's the rules.
 
Sollomon666 said:
Let me clarify this then, I will not be subject to harassment, and neither will the people standing up against Mag. This may be in a sense legal @Alj23 , but that does not make it right. If you truly were ignoring my words, then you would not be responding in such a manner. Sure, you are defending what you believe in. That is fine. But when it involves me, and almost every other faction. I do think you would get some form of hint that doing this pisses off the server rather than uniting it.
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Yah know what, you keep using your words. If you really think that's gona stop them, be my guest.

But you can bet that I'm gona fight them. And I am gona support people who are fighting them. And if you are so against them, help those being attacked or call for aid. But sitting around and complaining helps no one, including yourself. Don't whine about there not being a solution, BE the solution! Use traps or tactics to stop Mag. Because right now words are not helping people being raided by mag.
 
I don't really know why Mag is being considered a big villain for doing this. If they want to raid you, and they're doing so while following the rules, they're allowed to do so. If you're all feeling so strongly about this, go to Regalia or sit in a building for a while or something, and Mag will leave you alone, at least for a while. They're not using a Jedi mind trick to force you onto the battlefield. Calling them bullies is taking it a bit far. However, I don't think this comment was entirely called for:


hell I will enlist in Mag right now if it means i can crack the skulls of all these pretentious rprs
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That's kind of getting a bit offensive. But that's just one guy, not Mag. I also don't really understand why you're taking the raid RP reason to such an extreme degree. They don't have to make up a big, detailed reason. You're seeming to ignore the fact that for a very long time people have been using raid RP reasons such as, "We want to expand our empire" yet when Mag does it, it automatically makes them the villains.


Why does Mag have to wrap themselves in bubble wrap so you don't have to experience the raids against you?
 
Sarge_Peppers said:
maybe it is time for the pvprs to stand up and show you pretentious rprs who really own the server
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Just want to say, F*ck you. MassiveCraft is NOT owned by the PvP community, it is shared by the PvP Community, the Roleplay Community, the Construction Community, and the "We Have No Idea" Community. Saying otherwise is saying that the majority of the servers population doesn't have a right to enjoy themselves. So again, F*ck you.

Now, in regards to Magnanimus. What they are doing is perfectly legal under the raid rules. Do I like it? No. Am I disappointed in them for this entire thing? Yes. Do I loath them utterly for it? Not worth the effort. Will I be fighting them? Oh haha, no. I'll let them come, bother me for 2 hours while I go afk to read a book irl, and then the moment 2 hours are up I'll tell them they've overstayed their time limit and ask them to leave.

PvPers have no real power. If they can't attack you, they have literally nothing, not even a roleplay character with which to communicate with you. So my suggestion to all peaceful, sane, players, is this: ignore them. Ostracize them. Make them feel invisible. Crush them by ignoring them. They will leave as they lose opponents to kill and enemies to fight.

Now, this part is speaking to the PvP community: Do you support one another? Do you work to keep new players on the server interested in PvP and warfare? These are rhetorical questions, the answer is no, you don't. You kill them and laugh, and then wonder why so many of the 'new' players have such hate for you. You are killing your own community, wiping it out through your callus and cruel behaviors. You probably send 90% of the people who could have become PvPers into either other parts of Massive or onto different servers entirely. And my prediction is that your response to this will be either "no we don't" or "so what?".

My prediction for this is simple: if people ignore Magnanimus, they will grow bored with waiting around outside of enemy houses and fortresses and will leave in search of a fight. If the server doesn't give them a fight, they will leave for a different server.
 
I'm a little interested in how this is going to turn out, anybody else?
 
There isn't a large sign always hovering in front of you saying you absolutely have to be killed and have to go outside. It's just a 2-hour raid. Just go inside if you can't fight back, and with time they will acknowledge that you can't fight back, and it's all good.
 
Mecharic said:
Now, this part is speaking to the PvP community: Do you support one another? Do you work to keep new players on the server interested in PvP and warfare? These are rhetorical questions, the answer is no, you don't. You kill them and laugh, and then wonder why so many of the 'new' players have such hate for you.
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Bu... bu.. I want to answer your question cause you is wrong...

Magnanimus tried to start a college awhile back centered completely around helping new and old players learn PVP, production of items for PVP, and training. We even offered a private practice server for them to fight their little hearts out until they were content, not to mention there was planning for classes and "school rooms" being built with the sole purpose of teaching indivual skills needed to be successful in PVP. Skills they could take back to their main faction to teach other players, or put to use in Magnanimus. Sadly, this never became reality for reasons I can't even remember, but the thought was there.

I think we don't have enough people anymore that want to put in the work to get the stats or learn what they need to survive in PVP, and then equally disperse across the server into other factions. This is because a lot of factions that new players filter into know next to nothing about PVP and training. Hell, when I joined the server, right before Imperials started, I didn't understand the importance of MCMMO until about three months into the server, one from lack of communication with the rest of the faction due to time zones, and just lack of information I had easy access to.

As far as I'm concerned, new players come to factions like your faction to learn a bit of everything, and then go to a RP faction and or a PVP faction when they want to take that aspect of game play a bit more serious.
 
Its simple, if they can't attack you, they can't kill you. If your inside or in Regalia (where most RP takes place) they can't attack you...

Also what Mag is doing is completely within what they are allowed to do...
 
I completely agree with Mecharic on every level with this one. When you go to uspawn do you see people killing one another? No! People go to uspawn to enjoy the server for what it is, not for what some power hungry faction owner wants it to be. I stand here today not to put myself on a pedestal that I deserve not to be raided, No, I am here to tell all of you from Magnanimus that no matter how much you think yourselves better than us who RolePlay, you have come to the wrong server to even think for a minute that this server is ruled by pvp over RP.

When you go about saying that "the rules say" or "We are in the right" I cannot help but tell you in response that there is a Massive difference in what is right and what is in the "rules". I have Roleplayed for 2 years now and I have pvp'd in between and I am aloud to do what I want, but I do not do what I want in the sense that it hurts others to not want to come on anymore. But you are doing that, aren't you mag? The answer is yes.....
 
I would respond to that @Sollomon666, but then I would most likely cross a line I don't need to cross.

What I will say though is this...

As a casual PVP'er, and I say casual because I balance fighting with other things when I'm online, such as doing a bit of building or staff work, I don't think I'm better than a role player. Those who said that PVP'ers are better than RP'ers are close minded and too stuck in their ways. Being completely honest, both sides have their issues. Most pvp'ers are too aggressive and assertive, because when fighting, it involves the possibility of losing materials items, and most take deaths personally. A common way a win or lose is determined as of late is based on the K/D ration of a raid. RP'ers on the other hand I see as too soft, and don't want to play the game for what it originally was intended, which is a sandbox survival.

I have no beef with role players. I don't care if they RP. I've considered creating a RP character myself and dabbling into the Lore of MassiveCraft. The only reason I haven't is due to the time I would have to set aside to read up and learn all the lore, and then write the character. Believe it or not, I have a half complete rough draft of a RP character I was working on awhile back, but never took shape. Maybe I'll pick it back up, who knows?
 
Sarge_Peppers said:
maybe it is time for the pvprs to stand up and show you pretentious rprs who really own the server
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Wannag said:
Remember this is an rp and Pvp server. We are following the rules and having fun, what is your problem with pvp'ers?
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I was going to read this thread without replying until I saw these.

This is what Massivecraft is, as it is clearly stated on our front page right here. The first four letters. The first four letters most people who go on the website read first. It doesn't mean other areas like PvP or building are excluded. They are additions to this amazing server that make it even more enticing.
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I have to applaud Magnanimus for it's wonderful fight that is still happening at this very moment. I'm loving this new Mag Conquest. Mithril has put up quite the fight, let's see if others can do as well as we have. Just FYI.
 
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Shayin said:
I was going to read this thread without replying until I saw these.

This is what Massivecraft is, as it is clearly stated on our front page right here. The first four letters. The first four letters most people who go on the website read first. It doesn't mean other areas like PvP or building are excluded. They are additions to this amazing server that make it even more enticing.
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Despite that, this server is as heavily influenced by roleplay as it is pvp.
 
That is true, but it is also highly influenced by RP and when the RP community is affected in this way, we wont stand by and be trampled over without arguing our point.
 
Now I'm not a big fan of mag... But you are taking a game far too personally. They're following established rules as far as I'm aware. They can raid you for two hours a week, that's next to nothing. Everyone is hugely overreacting and as alj said y'all just gonna have to deal with it because it's perfectly allowed.
 
And it is also perfectly allowed to argue that we will not stand for this.
 
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