The Mag Threat Arises Again, Your Thoughts

Do you support Magnanimus with what they are doing?

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Wannag said:
Remember this is an rp and Pvp server. We are following the rules and having fun, what is your problem with pvp'ers?
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i dont have a problem with pvpers, what i do have a problem with is one of the factions with a majority of the strongest pvpers bullying people for money. This is the classical mob (like The Mob) practice of "protection"
 
Our Problem with Everyone Including pvpers is that you are all just a bunch of Bullies who get bored go around bullying and eneming factions for bs reasons like this one here! *The Scruffy...": New Ceardia Take over* That is no reason it's just bs to cover up Lol raiding! And when factions dont want to take sides you force them to by eneming them for no reason whatsoever
 
This whole situation is weird because people want to rule all of the land and others want to live in peace and harmony.If you want to live in peace then you should find another server(i am not supporting the war)but if this is going to happen to this server then it would be best to leave.
 
Fan...fanfreakentastic.....I'm just gonna continue with my mining.
 
Ok @Sarge_Peppers You may stand with them, and we will see you fall with them not soon after. You can not even begin to fathom how new players to the server are feeling right now pal, I support new players who make or join factions, AND THEY do not appreciate the crap they are doing because THEY have no way of fighting back or paying what mag wants.
 
Sarge_Peppers said:
hell I will enlist in Mag right now if it means i can crack the skulls of all these pretentious rprs who refuse to even learn about what life was pre sharding, and refuse to bow down to who is obviously superior to them outside of regalia
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What is superiority? Living in peace and harmony? Or loosing your soul to the corruption of power?
 
I may be new, but being an internet Neutralist has it's benefits, I will put this in 4 points

1. Admin abuse:
Admin abuse is is using your powers of administration to gain some sort of unfair advantage for them and their allies, either through allowing illegal access to areas or blocking messages of players you going against, even using your powers to empower your allies. That's the general idea.

2. Attacking RP factions:
You are attacking factions that did NOTHING to provoke you, and yet you think you can do it? these players may not have any interest in PVP, if you want to PVP there are MANY more servers you can go look into, this server IS an RP server first PVP server second.

3. PVP vs RP:
What percentage of the active PVPer are in this faction? I say more then you think, a lot of players prefer not to get involved int he PVP side of the server and it's their right to do so, and the reason that some have high stats is or making god equipment to sell to your so called PVPers. Yet you want to force them away and force them out of the server when they do a lot of the community work that you purchase.

4. All in all:
This is just a glorified excuse for "they're bored" and "we're douche bags" and they think they can get away with it because they think the server is "theirs", this has no good effects no mater HOW you look at except on the side of mag who has the most to gain with this, as if they take control of the server the other PVP factions with nothing left and will nde under the regime of the most powerful PVPing faction one the server.
 
Blake1197 said:
I may be new, but being an internet Neutralist has it's benefits, I will put this in 4 points

1. Admin abuse:
Admin abuse is is using your powers of administration to gain some sort of unfair advantage for them and their allies, either through allowing illegal access to areas or blocking messages of players you going against, even using your powers to empower your allies. That's the general idea.

2. Attacking RP factions:
You are attacking factions that did NOTHING to provoke you, and yet you think you can do it? these players may not have any interest in PVP, if you want to PVP there are MANY more servers you can go look into, this server IS an RP server first PVP server second.

3. PVP vs RP:
What percentage of the active PVPer are in this faction? I say more then you think, a lot of players prefer not to get involved int he PVP side of the server and it's their right to do so, and the reason that some have high stats is or making god equipment to sell to your so called PVPers. Yet you want to force them away and force them out of the server when they do a lot of the community work that you purchase.

4. All in all:
This is just a glorified excuse for "they're bored" and "we're douche bags" and they think they can get away with it because they think the server is "theirs", this has no good effects no mater HOW you look at except on the side of mag who has the most to gain with this, as if they take control of the server the other PVP factions with nothing left and will nde under the regime of the most powerful PVPing faction one the server.
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We follow the rules and nothing more, nothing less.
 
Okay, this is getting annoy.
Before I start, let me inform everyone about who exactly I am.
I run a really small faction (11 people) in an almost abandoned region of Ithania. We are roughly an hour & half walk north of Magnanimus. There are really only two 'pvpers' in my faction, and while we have good tactics and gear we don't have the raw power that a faction like Mag has. We prefer to dig holes, build, and rp.

Keeping that in mind, Magnanimus is COMPLETELY justified in their actions, as they have worked their abilities and members to the point where they can maintain a large scale raid war against a large number of factions. Just because you do not have the same skills they do is not their fault. It is your own. Some people choose to fight, others to RP. Regardless, it is both groups responsibility to learn how to interact with each other. PvPers have to learn how to deal with factions that use RP reasons to protect themselves, and its up to RPers to learn to do the same. Grab some throw away iron gear and go get murdered laughing. Sit in a hole and ignore them, or better yet have a friendly conversation from the safety of inside a building. If you're allowing them to keep killing you, then clearly you failed to to make your faction location secure. At which point member's deaths falls upon their faction leaders and the builders.

The thing to take away from this is that anyone can make a box with no doors, windows, or other forms of entering it. If you have the capacity to do that, you have the capacity to survive a two hour raid. Its not hard. It'd take less effort than most of the posts on this thread.
 
Blake1197 said:
I may be new, but being an internet Neutralist has it's benefits, I will put this in 4 points

1. Admin abuse:
Admin abuse is is using your powers of administration to gain some sort of unfair advantage for them and their allies, either through allowing illegal access to areas or blocking messages of players you going against, even using your powers to empower your allies. That's the general idea.

2. Attacking RP factions:
You are attacking factions that did NOTHING to provoke you, and yet you think you can do it? these players may not have any interest in PVP, if you want to PVP there are MANY more servers you can go look into, this server IS an RP server first PVP server second.

3. PVP vs RP:
What percentage of the active PVPer are in this faction? I say more then you think, a lot of players prefer not to get involved int he PVP side of the server and it's their right to do so, and the reason that some have high stats is or making god equipment to sell to your so called PVPers. Yet you want to force them away and force them out of the server when they do a lot of the community work that you purchase.

4. All in all:
This is just a glorified excuse for "they're bored" and "we're douche bags" and they think they can get away with it because they think the server is "theirs", this has no good effects no mater HOW you look at except on the side of mag who has the most to gain with this, as if they take control of the server the other PVP factions with nothing left and will nde under the regime of the most powerful PVPing faction one the server.
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This is what I am talking about right here. It is this bull **** that needs to stop. PvP came first, and RP proliferated from a primarily PvP server.
 
Blake1197 said:
I may be new, but being an internet Neutralist has it's benefits, I will put this in 4 points

1. Admin abuse:
Admin abuse is is using your powers of administration to gain some sort of unfair advantage for them and their allies, either through allowing illegal access to areas or blocking messages of players you going against, even using your powers to empower your allies. That's the general idea.

2. Attacking RP factions:
You are attacking factions that did NOTHING to provoke you, and yet you think you can do it? these players may not have any interest in PVP, if you want to PVP there are MANY more servers you can go look into, this server IS an RP server first PVP server second.

3. PVP vs RP:
What percentage of the active PVPer are in this faction? I say more then you think, a lot of players prefer not to get involved int he PVP side of the server and it's their right to do so, and the reason that some have high stats is or making god equipment to sell to your so called PVPers. Yet you want to force them away and force them out of the server when they do a lot of the community work that you purchase.

4. All in all:
This is just a glorified excuse for "they're bored" and "we're douche bags" and they think they can get away with it because they think the server is "theirs", this has no good effects no mater HOW you look at except on the side of mag who has the most to gain with this, as if they take control of the server the other PVP factions with nothing left and will nde under the regime of the most powerful PVPing faction one the server.
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A server without variety and differences is a server with no life
 
Thalan79 said:
Okay, this is getting annoy.
Before I start, let me inform everyone about who exactly I am.
I run a really small faction (11 people) in an almost abandoned region of Ithania. We are roughly an hour & half walk north of Magnanimus. There are really only two 'pvpers' in my faction, and while we have good tactics and gear we don't have the raw power that a faction like Mag has. We prefer to dig holes, build, and rp.

Keeping that in mind, Magnanimus is COMPLETELY justified in their actions, as they have worked their abilities and members to the point where they can maintain a large scale raid war against a large number of factions. Just because you do not have the same skills they do is not their fault. It is your own. Some people choose to fight, others to RP. Regardless, it is both groups responsibility to learn how to interact with each other. PvPers have to learn how to deal with factions that use RP reasons to protect themselves, and its up to RPers to learn to do the same. Grab some throw away iron gear and go get murdered laughing. Sit in a hole and ignore them, or better yet have a friendly conversation from the safety of inside a building. If you're allowing them to keep killing you, then clearly you failed to to make your faction location secure. At which point member's deaths falls upon their faction leaders and the builders.

The thing to take away from this is that anyone can make a box with no doors, windows, or other forms of entering it. If you have the capacity to do that, you have the capacity to survive a two hour raid. Its not hard. It'd take less effort than most of the posts on this thread.
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I.... agree. Thank you for explaining this :) Maybe people will see this from the pvp point of view.
 
Sarge_Peppers said:
This is what I am talking about right here. It is this bull **** that needs to stop. PvP came first, and RP proliferated from a primarily PvP server.
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the bull**** that needs to stop are people attacking others for no reason. I perfered the old raid rules where you would have to give a GOOD raid reason to go attack someone. Why this 2 hour raid rule for no reason change??
 
It's not a matter of PVP and RP, it's a matter of people don't want to PVP, and you are forcing them do so, it's not a matter of breaking server rules, it's a matter of making yourself look like the villain and trying to defend yourself, and you are breaking the Moral rules, it's up to you respect other players decisions, not bully them because of it.
 
@Thalan79 If us standing up for what we believe in annoys you, then you have come to the wrong place. Most will argue that they are in no sense, justified and never will be justified. We are here to represent ourselves and those who cannot speak for themselves who agree with us. If we think this is being abusive, SOMETHING is obviously wrong if so many people agree.
 
Can we go back to the old raid rules? Giving a good reason to raid someone. Like keep the war system and if u want to constantly raid someone make a war thread. If u want to raid someone give a reason for it. That is a much better system than the crap that's in now.
 
bannanasquash said:
Can we go back to the old raid rules? Giving a good reason to raid someone. Like keep the war system and if u want to constantly raid someone make a war thread. If u want to raid someone give a reason for it. That is a much better system than the crap that's in now.
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How is this for a reason. Pretentious RPrs think they are somehow better than us because they have a well known character in Regalia, but outside of Regalia they are truly peasants. Instead of realizing that they are really peasants they decide to banter PvPrs who have been shat on for all the support they gave to the server before the proliferation of RP.
 
bannanasquash said:
Can we go back to the old raid rules? Giving a good reason to raid someone. Like keep the war system and if u want to constantly raid someone make a war thread. If u want to raid someone give a reason for it. That is a much better system than the crap that's in now.
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You think in medieval times Large powerful kingdoms needed a reason to attack people?
 
All though I really do find this a bit bazaar, I won't mind some action and drama. @Wannag, I found it funny because I don't think it really matters what came first middle or last. However that is my opinion, and not to be taken offensive.
 
Sollomon666 said:
@Thalan79 If us standing up for what we believe in annoys you, then you have come to the wrong place. Most will argue that they are in no sense, justified and never will be justified. We are here to represent ourselves and those who cannot speak for themselves who agree with us. If we think this is being abusive, SOMETHING is obviously wrong if so many people agree.
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We? Us? Are you talking about Rpers? Because I most RP. Why are they not allowed to play the game freely, like any RPer is allowed to? Why is what they believe in not matter compared to what you believe in?
@Wannag that was from an RPer's perspective, but understood. Its not often that I support my enemies lol.
 
Although it may be easy to try to relate this to real life medieval times @Wannag, But the fact of the matter is that this is a Roleplay fantasy server. Of coarse the whole mental standing of most kings are the same, but that does not justify what they do. Do you think people did not fight back when a king invaded? Of coarse they did! And until you learn that you cannot force an idea or a way of living on someone, you will never learn anything :/
 
Blake1197 said:
Since when did we say that we were better then you, go tell us where we said that.

also get your facts right, in medieval times YOU NEEDED a reason to wage war/raid enemies it's called a Casus Bellei it was deemed unhonorable otherwise and was punishable by death
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@Ellimairy is the most notorious of snobby rprs to believe she is more powerful than pvprs. Also sexyrose_ too.
 
bannanasquash said:
who cares about that? Go back to the old raid rules. Much better, much easier to deal with. This aint no 1300 b.c or whatever, this is 2014
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You've got to be kidding me. You argue how we don't care for rp and don't take rp into account. This is a medieval based server so I will relate to it as so.
 
Sollomon666 said:
Although it may be easy to try to relate this to real life medieval times @Wannag, But the fact of the matter is that this is a Roleplay fantasy server. Of coarse the whole mental standing of most kings are the same, but that does not justify what they do. Do you think people did not fight back when a king invaded? Of coarse they did! And until you learn that you cannot force an idea or a way of living on someone, you will never learn anything :/
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it is called Assimilation, and it is very well possible to do.
 
Of coarse it is possible, but it seems that everyone does not want to assimilate, but rather stay independent and continue doing what they enjoy, rather than what they are forced to do. AKA this whole dam war.
 
Wannag said:
You've got to be kidding me. You argue how we don't care for rp and don't take rp into account. This is a medieval based server so I will relate to it as so.
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and yet is this rp? No, this is u raiding for no reason whatsoever. When people gave reasons it was such "You have a vampire in your faction and we are vampire hunters" or "You have disrespected our leader" or the best one ive heard "We are an roman faction, our goal is to conqure and destory all opposing forces" what u guys are doing is NOT rp. Do not even attmept to classify it as such.
 
Sollomon666 said:
Of coarse it is possible, but it seems that everyone does not want to assimilate, but rather stay independent and continue doing what they enjoy, rather than what they are forced to do. AKA this whole dam war.
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We are doing what we enjoy doing and you're all bashing on us for it.
 
bannanasquash said:
and yet is this rp? No, this is u raiding for no reason whatsoever. When people gave reasons it was such "You have a vampire in your faction and we are vampire hunters" or "You have disrespected our leader" or the best one ive heard "We are an roman faction, our goal is to conqure and destory all opposing forces" what u guys are doing is NOT rp. Do not even attmept to classify it as such.
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Expansion, Conquest, Might and Power.
Those are perfectly good rp reasons are they not?
 
When what YOU do involves us having an unpleasant experience on a server we love, of coarse we will bash you to ashes for it. And we do not do RP events such as this that negatively effect half the server.
 
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