Why Cant Kids Be Staff

Do you think this could work?

  • Yes, I think that could be fair.

    Votes: 10 9.4%

  • Needs some more thought.

    Votes: 31 29.2%

  • No, you're just some desperate idiot.

    Votes: 65 61.3%
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TheFinitePeach said:
A fairly leading theory why their able to learn languages is while most of the grey matter is present during that age many pathway connections inside the grey matter are formed which could allow them to make the connections necessary to learn the language. However as you age your ability to make the same mental pathways decreases...
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Touché good sir. But that doesn't make a child able to process the same amount of information that an adults brain is able to. The connections may able to be made more easy as a child but the potential for the ability to actually utilise them to the maximum is limited, as throughout the Oral stage to the Genital stage of development (Roughly 0-16/18) the human body is a battleground of hormones that can override these singles at times. (This is going to become Biology vs Psychology isn't it... :P )
 
Did we not already establish why children should not be staff? I can see the beginnings of an all out debate starting...

(In the poll, shouldn't it be "No, you're just some desperate idiot"? Not "No, you just some desperate idiot"?)
 
Terrariauk said:
Touché good sir. But that doesn't make a child able to process the same amount of information that an adults brain is able to. The connections may able to be made more easy as a child but the potential for the ability to actually utilise them to the maximum is limited, as throughout the Oral stage to the Genital stage of development (Roughly 0-16/18) the human body is a battleground of hormones that can override these singles at times. (This is going to become Biology vs Psychology isn't it... :P )
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Well obviously there is a great difference between being able to learn how to speak and being able to understand stimuli from your surroundings, process that stimuli into information, and being able to make a good well informed decision based on the information.

Basicly we don't think kids can be good staff members...
 
TheFinitePeach said:
Well obviously there is a great difference between being able to learn how to speak and being able to understand stimuli from your surroundings, process that stimuli into information, and being able to make a good well informed decision based on the information.

Basicly we don't think kids can be good staff members...
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Science for the win.
 
Joshy54100 said:
I think the only staff position a person under 16 could fulfill reasonably well is maybe World staff, but overall the age requirement is good, since (in general terms) the older you are, the more mature/responsible you are. It's just to help the staff easily whittle down a group to those who would usually be better staff.
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One thing though
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this guy will be sixteen soon...
nuff said
 
I'm sorry but @TheFinitePeach and @Terrariauk, how does the information processing of babies effect young staff? It just got a tad bit off topic... And I think the only 2 things we established here is that most people want the age limit to be reduced by one year and no more. Am I right in thinking this?
 
Ethanol said:
I'm sorry but @TheFinitePeach and @Terrariauk, how does the information processing of babies effect young staff? It just got a tad bit off topic... And I think the only 2 things we established here is that most people want the age limit to be reduced by one year and no more. Am I right in thinking this?
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My comments are all applicable to ages under 16, thus on topic. I think its fine at that age.
 
I agree that people under the age of 16 should not have the ability to become staff, with the exception of PR. If they were a PR staff, and had experience designing websites, and making ad campaigns, then I think they should be able to achieve that position. Of course maturity and whatnot will still play a role, but if there are plenty of mature pre-teens out there that could handle that position.
 
Children should not be staff. Period. It's been proven multiple times. Why we are still discussing this is beyond me.....
 
TheBatman1016 said:
I agree that people under the age of 16 should not have the ability to become staff, with the exception of PR. If they were a PR staff, and had experience designing websites, and making ad campaigns, then I think they should be able to achieve that position. Of course maturity and whatnot will still play a role, but if there are plenty of mature pre-teens out there that could handle that position.
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PR staff do not design the website, the website uses a theme available for purchase online and I'm sure it uses a CMS (Content Management System) to upload/remove the content. All PR staff would do is make the page and content on the page and an Admin (Tier 3 staff) would upload it.
 
Okay, One thing. Our "Kids minds" havn't developed fully. Also, you (maybe) and I (I am) are going threw puberty will cause are minds to be in and out, and we will have emotional changes, AND we will start to grow hairs on you know what, and all that horrible hell hole stuff that would make it hard to do our job..
@Turtle663

But..
I would think it would be better to have kids having a half time job, like a Semi-Roleplay Staff, and they will have a full Roleplay Staff member to be like there trainer or something. The Semi-Roleplay Staff member can only put in character apps in pending review, and review character apps, or other things. They can tell there Roleplay Staff member "Teacher" and the Roelplay Staff member will have the final say on the thread.
 
Turtle663, Many children as myself don't have the maturity to handle all the problems that kids don't really have to worry about, but if you do want to be part of the staff and help out in your way you could apply for a forum moderator, which, correct me if I'm wrong, does not have an age limit​
 
Sisley_ said:
Turtle663, Many children as myself don't have the maturity to handle all the problems that kids don't really have to worry about, but if you do want to be part of the staff and help out in your way you could apply for a forum moderator, which, correct me if I'm wrong, does not have an age limit​
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I'll ask MonMarty or Other Staff if that has no age limit... ALSO, what is Forum Moderator.. Just wondering.
 
Kirby12352 said:
Normally, when you classify a staff member on some server as abusive, it's pretty safe to say that it's some 10 year old who got a staff rank for some unfathomable reason. Sure, there are staff members who are fairly old who abuse their powers, but the majority of these people are kids. Not only that, but kids are less mature, and less likely to make good decisions and whatnot. There are some 10/13 year olds who can be very responsible and mature, but this number tends to be fairly low, and even if they are mature, chances are a mature 17 year old would still be more mature than a mature 11 year old. I know I would way rather have staff members that are 15+, rather than 10/13 year olds.
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Well... I was a moderator (On another server) and the owner was SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO strict on Mod abuse, that it marked itself in my head, and made me afraid to do /fly, only if we had to build a new spawn (Which we did since it restarted). Also he banned my cousin for mod abuse so I know ALL about mod abuse.
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HUH.....
Well... should, I ask if there is a age limit..... or someone else? Screw it I will.
 
I strongly disagree with the age limit on staff being lowered. As plenty of actual staff members, and players, alike have stated already: no matter how mature you think you are, you're not. You are physically incapable of having the maturity of someone older by several years. This applies to me, too, before you think I'm bashing you. Kthxbai.
 
TheBatman1016 said:
I agree that people under the age of 16 should not have the ability to become staff, with the exception of PR.
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PR needs experience. I honestly doubt that anybody under 16 has done ad campaigns or done any sort of marketing - they probably haven't even taken any serious business classes! And while PR also makes media and maintains the MassiveCraft brand, this also requires experience with graphic editing tools, which I bet even less people have true mastery over.

Ultimately, it does not matter which department you go for or how much work you are expected to do. Being staff is an administrative position that requires you to be a leader. From not only scientific research, but also personal experiences, I can easily conclude that anybody under 16 cannot manage a position of such responsibility.

Finally, to end my argument, if you have to point out what your maturity or intelligence level is, then you obviously aren't high in either of those categories. Remember, your actions speak louder than your words. Let your actions speak for you instead of your words.
 
I've seen servers where the staff will always argue with one another and the playerbase absolutely hates the staff. The things I see in common with these servers is they will rank anyone who passes their tests/applications, regardless of age/maturity. The senior staff (16+) still participates in the quarrels instead of ending them, so age isn't the entire factor behind immature staff, but it still is a major factor behind maturity. I don't really support this.
 
togal300 said:
In certain cases there can be rapid development within younger peoples brain, making them more mature... But then again intelligence does not also prove of how mature a person could be, I have met plenty of intelligent children but yet they lack maturity. There were some research taken that adults are most likely to understand emotional feelings and facial expressions much better than younger people do. Decision making also comes with one of the benefits of the brain development, soon you'll find it more easier to make decisions.
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Did you know that babies can interpret emotions and detect them better then most humans, since they have no language skills yet, they rely heavily on detecting and reading facial expressions to determine thought processes and emotions..totally irrelevant fun fact.
 
The only positions I can see a child getting is one that involves world creation, if they are creative, and in game help, if they know alot about the game, BUT ONLY IF they can keep their chill and not flip out because of something.
 
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I once played on a server with a nine year old moderator. Long story short, that server is long dead. Coincidence? I THINK NOT.
 
Jamtrav said:
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I feel that's kind of unfair. One thing I can be sure of is that children are incredibly creative and there's no end to their creativity, they can easily help staff make quests and participate majorly in Lore conversations, while their literary levels may not be up to the standards there are always talents that they have to a higher degree than some older aged staff.

That being said we aren't talking about children, we're talking about 13 year old kids and up, in my opinion if the age limit is decreased than it should be no more than 15 years old. Apart from that I think 16 is fine. I'll happy wait the year or so until I'm 16, I like Massive that much and I want to be a part of what makes it the great server that it is and I think that should be part of the motivation behind being a staff member. If a player has that sort of motivation to be a staff, they'll be happy to help where they can and wait until they can apply.
 
AurelienBela. said:
Did you know that babies can interpret emotions and detect them better then most humans, since they have no language skills yet, they rely heavily on detecting and reading facial expressions to determine thought processes and emotions..totally irrelevant fun fact.
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Thats due to their brain development, at the age of 12 they start to grow more neurons. They do not have that certain surge of signals when they are babies.
 
Kind if irrelevant, but I believe player based elections on moderators might be quite beneficial. It might stop the person that is good-for-the-job-but-not-very-good-at-being-friendly. Just a suggestion.
 
TheFinitePeach said:
Actually you get dumber as you age... Babies and toddlers are routinely able of completing mentle feats that adults are not able to do, or require much more effort to accomplish. (ie. learning languages)
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I'm guessing your old due to your usage of the word *Dumber* by the ways that type of word doesn't exist.
 
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And no they don't have some surge of signals but connections between different parts of the brain topographically are created this is why even if a child can't remember some early life trauma it will still affect their behavior later in life due to the permanent influences on it due to its own environment. Its also not just growing neurons its which type of neurons specifically whether they are white or grey matter.
 
I didn't read any of the answers but I think you might understand this, not all of you but the most. A teenager in the age of 13-15 starts gaining the ability to think abstract, you understand what life is and question things what were complete clear for you, care about others what you would normally not do. And I think thats why there is this age limit.
 
Did somebody say Moderator! Sorry had to make the references, anywho, I've been staff on many servers and I'm only 15 right now. If I had to say, I would no people under 16 although I don't abuse power like a did, power corrupts absolutely. And I beleive under 16 amplifies that.
 
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