Weapons And You: What Do You Wield?

[Mycin]

Weapons and You: What do you wield?


This thread will be making points on the weapons that characters use, their effectiveness and who would own them. The first point I need to make which I feel is very important to make, is about swords; very few people would own swords, and if they did, they would probably be, rapiers, or ceremonial swords, for decoration. Not many people besides nobles and guards would use swords. My second point to make about swords, specifically, longswords, claymores, and other large bladed weapons, is they would often serve the same purpose as a mace or flail, after a few hits.


SWORDS DO NOT CUT THROUGH PEOPLE LIKE HOT BUTTER!

Most guards, or knights would opt for a mace or hammer, or some other bludgeoning weapons, over a sword. When a sword would be used, it would be used for stabbing primarily, and in that case, a spear, or halberd could be used instead.


Now, as stated before, most people would not use swords, in that case, what would you use as a civilian of Regalia? The weapons, or tool, you would use to fight could change massively. Most of the time, you would use a tool; a blacksmith's hammer, a woodworking axe, a saw for cutting trees and shrubs, a scythe for cutting wheat or other farmed plants; the list could go on for hours. As for an actual weapon, the few things someone might have, is a knife or dagger, spear, or bow.


Take some time to rethink what weapon your character is using.
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[ZZaque]

Noor used dual scimitars, though she was in the Qadrii military, so it makes sense that she had/used them.
As for Aarzon, he uses a pickaxe, because he was a slave, he wielded a sword once, but it was long forgotten after his year in the mine.

People should really rethink how they got their weapon, not everyone would have a sword. Once I saw a ten year old with a claymore... yeah... life decisions...

 

[Bensonio]

When it comes to races though? Drowdar would be likely to have access to a variety of weapons over normal citizens being from a militaristic background. Orcs would carry around things similarly, having a brutish culture based around combat. Etc

 

[Mycin]

When it comes to races though? Drowdar would be likely to have access to a variety of weapons over normal citizens being from a militaristic background. Orcs would carry around things similarly, having a brutish culture based around combat. Etc

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That is a good point, the other thing to think about, is not every single Orc, or Drowdar is a soldier, there have to be people making food for the soldiers, people to make their weapons, people to get materials for the tools and weapons. No one person can do all of that, people usually have one thing they are specifically good at; Be it making weapons, chopping trees, farming, or fighting.

 

[PinkAngel725]

That is a good point, the other thing to think about, is not every single Orc, or Drowdar is a soldier, there have to be people making food for the soldiers, people to make their weapons, people to get materials for the tools and weapons. No one person can do all of that, people usually have one thing they are specifically good at; Be it making weapons, chopping trees, farming, or fighting.

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Pretty sure orcs would use slaves or pillage materials or something. I can't picture an Orc from Barjuk farming. Or any other Orc for that matter.

 

[1002713Alex]

My main character uses a sword, just because that's the only weapon I know how to use.

 

[Bensonio]

Pretty sure orcs would use slaves or pillage materials or something. I can't picture an Orc from Barjuk farming. Or any other Orc for that matter.

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I back this, and im fairly sure both races being from a culture and history based on warfare and fighting; despite whether people are foragers or soldiers alike, would have some form of military training

 

[Film_Noir]

privateer - primarily cutlasses and daggers
(I'd imagine that a number of people associated with the Regalian navy would also prefer these.)

A bit of history/info. on use: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cutlass

 

[Phon_Senajan]

Phon has used: A spear, a quarterstaff, throwing knives, dual katars, a shortsword, a dwarven war axe, a zweihander, and a claymore....and even a baguette.

Ulysess has used: A heavy crossbow, dual longswords, and a claymore

Magnus has used: A shortsword, and dual katars

Lazarrus has used: A single katar

I know my characters use unorthodox weapons alright, and Phon used hell lotsa weapons xD

 

[PatrickArrow]

No option to shield bash people, this thread be lame.

 

[LordSylveon]

Depends on my character.

Helios uses a Naginata (japanese polearm). I primarily chose this because Helios is a Slither, and a pole arm would be most effective for someone without legs. Furthermore, I know a lot about pole arm technique so I figured it'd be easier to RP with. He also has two short swords (which I forget the proper name for) as back ups.

Drust (who is currently being rewritten, and is not a mage) uses sword and board (sword and heater shield for those who don't know what S&B means). Main focus for him is deflection to force openings, before stabbing/slashing for a kill. He is more mobile, but relies on picking targets (both people and spots on people) properly and forcing openings. Thus I chose sword (a good versatile weapon) and heater shield (a nice defensive platform, but not so large that it slows him down). He does work for a noble family, so I can get away with some extra costs. I'm still bouncing around armor ideas, but I think I've narrowed down my options to only a few choices.

 

[Tra_kad]

@Mycin_Alchemist with "SWORDS DO NOT CUT THROUGH PEOPLE LIKE HOT BUTTER"
Finally.
Someone used logic.
But what about baguettes? I want that option.

 

[Phon_Senajan]

@Mycin_Alchemist
But what about baguettes? I want that option.

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Scariest shit on the planet, I used it.

 

[Simcity_4]

Tim uses a Pickaxe and a Rapier. Pickaxes are fun to gore with.

 

[Deleted User 0206201901]

I don't use weapons, they use me

 

[The Golem]

Kekoa would rather use his hand made hammers, which has a much sharper side for emergencies, and since he carries his tools almost everywhere, he'd probably consider those as his weapons. Also small hammers are slightly easier to use in water than a giant sword.

 

[Bensonio]

I don't use weapons, they use me

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Its okay, you can get therapy for that. We are ALL standing by you in your time of need, and just remember- its the weapons fault, not yours

 

[Mycin]

Pretty sure orcs would use slaves or pillage materials or something. I can't picture an Orc from Barjuk farming. Or any other Orc for that matter.

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I back this, and im fairly sure both races being from a culture and history based on warfare and fighting; despite whether people are foragers or soldiers alike, would have some form of military training

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To be fair, that is a good point, slaves are an effective way of getting work done. This thread will obviously have points where there are peoples who only fight, like the Barjuk tribe. I'm taking the guess that the slaves are specialized in some way to what job they do, if they had an uprising, what kind of weapons would those slaves have? This is the point of this thread.

 

[Mycin]

My main character uses a sword, just because that's the only weapon I know how to use.

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The only weapon you know how to use yourself, in real life, or in game, because depending on the type of sword, and type of person, the weapon your character may not make sense. My point is to take what I've said here to the game, and rethink your weapons.

 

[Oursaxmax]

No Ryu he is destroying my logic which makes no sense... horrible person.

 

[1002713Alex]

The only weapon you know how to use yourself, in real life, or in game, because depending on the type of sword, and type of person, the weapon your character may not make sense. My point is to take what I've said here to the game, and rethink your weapons.

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I know how to use swords myself. But my character comes from a mercenary background.

 

[jamstersaber14]

Mine use mostly swords... I have a sword! And my girlfriend is a martial arts expert + owns a gun.

 

[Sidereum]

Alistair is going to use a sword (not as much), a staff, and his magic. I voted scythe because if he's going to use a tool as a weapon, it's going to be a scythe if available.

 

[Mycin]

Yani uses a Longsword. Historically close to a European Longsword. The blade is around forty inches in length. He was plucked from the wilderness and thrown into a mercenary group in Ithania, which likely had it's own Blacksmith with them. I would assume they would have bought the raw materials from miners, in Ithania itself, using the money in which they earned from contracts. It was the first thing he picked up, thus he learned how to use it, and was taught to use it. I think that's a sufficient enough reason for him to use one. I singled out the Longsword as my 'favourite' weapon, due to his flexibility in battle. To pierce armour, you would thrust. Against unarmoured targets, a slash or cut is enough to damage them. Liam, on the other hand, uses a one handed sabre, which was crafted for him, and he was taught to use it in his general studies, due to his noble background.

I'm going to assume Massivecraft is set in the medieval ages, here, which is the... most likely time period, I assume. From a civilian standpoint, a sword, of any type, can be common. Why? Because it's thin and doesn't require much materiel. They're also fairly sturdy. There's no reason as to why the public wouldn't own a sword. It's a simple and effective weapon to use, as well as cheap. Bear in mind, the point I stated before, not many people would own armour either. That's a lot of metal to put into it. Mace's and other bludgeoning tools are very effective against armour, yet not many people would have it- such is the reason common people would don the sword. You didn't really give much argument as to why swords aren't common, either, which I'd love to hear more detail about- if you have any.

Sorry for the long post, and if I got some points wrong. x.x

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<3 Smart People, Tcarey puts into effect what I'd like to be shown in game. The thought put behind weapons and how they would be used. (Massivecraft is Medieval Romania I believe.)

There is something I would like to point out though. You said, quote There's no reason as to why the public wouldn't own a sword." I completely disagree with this.

15th C England basically went like this, You had "li, s, d" or "pounds, shillings, and pence". 12 pence in a shilling and 20 shillings, or 240 pence, in a pound. Average sword was a pound. Average person made 2 pence a day; so 120 days of labor for a sword.

It would take people a very long time to save up for a sword, with the prices of food and living to pay for. The last thing people would do is go out of their way to get a sword, when they could already own a knife, or tool that could be used to harm someone. As said in my main post, swords after a few hits to armor, would end up being just as effective as a bludgeon, so most guards and knights would choose a mace or flail over a sword.

Knights and Guards would use maces and flails, most of the time.

The weapon of choice usually varies for the job trying to be done, Swords are effective against people without armor, or in some cases, people in chain-mail. While a mace, or flail, doesn't matter, where or how you hit someone, it's going to do damage, It can crunch bones and destroy flesh, dent and destroy thick plate mail, and completely ignore chain-mail. Spears and Pikes, would be perfect for crowd control, and keeping people at a distance

Back to civilians, spending 2/3 of the year saving for a sword, is near ridiculous. They could easily get a working hammer, or woodworking axe or knife, for much less.

 

[BulbousDevourer]

My character mainly uses daggers, mainly because my character isn't exactly rich, and I'm trained to use them IRL. IRL I have been also trained with swords, but not as much as knives and daggers. I do Kung Fu, but so far I haven't done a whole lot of swordplay. That will come in a few years, though.

 

[Rinus]

My character Acioa primarily uses two weapons:

1. Her Blowpipe, which is most commonly used. As a yanar, she has a gift for growing plants, and she, being the happy lass she is, grows poisons and gets the venom from poisonous animals, which she covers her darts in. The blowpipe was a gift from her father, and she treasures it quite dearly. She's able to make the darts herself, making them out of wood or stone, but she does prefer to get sturdier materials such as metal if she can.
2. She also has quite the ornate and beautiful metal elvish dagger. She didn't pay for this. She passed through a human town when she was fleeing from Daendroc, and simply stole it from a market stall when the merchant wasn't looking. She uses that if something gets to close and she can't get her blowpipe.

 

[Icaruscien]

<3 Smart People, Tcarey puts into effect what I'd like to be shown in game. The thought put behind weapons and how they would be used. (Massivecraft is Medieval Romania I believe.)

There is something I would like to point out though. You said, quote There's no reason as to why the public wouldn't own a sword." I completely disagree with this.

15th C England basically went like this, You had "li, s, d" or "pounds, shillings, and pence". 12 pence in a shilling and 20 shillings, or 240 pence, in a pound. Average sword was a pound. Average person made 2 pence a day; so 120 days of labor for a sword.

It would take people a very long time to save up for a sword, with the prices of food and living to pay for. The last thing people would do is go out of their way to get a sword, when they could already own a knife, or tool that could be used to harm someone. As said in my main post, swords after a few hits to armor, would end up being just as effective as a bludgeon, so most guards and knights would choose a mace or flail over a sword.

Knights and Guards would use maces and flails, most of the time.

The weapon of choice usually varies for the job trying to be done, Swords are effective against people without armor, or in some cases, people in chain-mail. While a mace, or flail, doesn't matter, where or how you hit someone, it's going to do damage, It can crunch bones and destroy flesh, dent and destroy thick plate mail, and completely ignore chain-mail. Spears and Pikes, would be perfect for crowd control, and keeping people at a distance

Back to civilians, spending 2/3 of the year saving for a sword, is near ridiculous. They could easily get a working hammer, or woodworking axe or knife, for much less.

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This is the detail I asked for in my last post. Thanks. <3

 

[Rhuyne]

I am mighty. I am powerful. I rule humanity. I CAN DESTROY OUR GALAXY! BECAUSE -deep inhale-
I. USE. NO. WEAPOOOOOOOOOOO----
-trips-

 

[keylan118]

Weapons and You: What do you wield?


This thread will be making points on the weapons that characters use, their effectiveness and who would own them. The first point I need to make which I feel is very important to make, is about swords; very few people would own swords, and if they did, they would probably be, rapiers, or ceremonial swords, for decoration. Not many people besides nobles and guards would use swords. My second point to make about swords, specifically, longswords, claymores, and other large bladed weapons, is they would often serve the same purpose as a mace or flail, after a few hits.


SWORDS DO NOT CUT THROUGH PEOPLE LIKE HOT BUTTER!

Most guards, or knights would opt for a mace or hammer, or some other bludgeoning weapons, over a sword. When a sword would be used, it would be used for stabbing primarily, and in that case, a spear, or halberd could be used instead.


Now, as stated before, most people would not use swords, in that case, what would you use as a civilian of Regalia? The weapons, or tool, you would use to fight could change massively. Most of the time, you would use a tool; a blacksmith's hammer, a woodworking axe, a saw for cutting trees and shrubs, a scythe for cutting wheat or other farmed plants; the list could go on for hours. As for an actual weapon, the few things someone might have, is a knife or dagger, spear, or bow.


Take some time to rethink what weapon your character is using.
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Bludgeoning Weapons aren't exactly easy either. They are normally for big people. They are slow and heavy.

 

[SorryNari]

I personally would probably prefer a small hammer. Not a giant hammer that you see in those anime with tiny girls holding a big-ass sword with glyphs tattooed on them, along with some random demon butler. I feel nervous around sharp objects, like needles, swords, daggers. If you accidentally somehow fucked up, you might cut yourself. With the hammer, I feel as if that may be different. Sorta safer. I don't think I like cutting people, or cutting other things. Bludgeoning them? Well, I wouldn't like that because it would still hurt a lot for people, but could probably knock them out to prevent pain. Rather than being shanked while your breathing. And conscious. And in pain. Screaming. Like how a mandrake would. I'm not very buff and strong like some people, but I don't think wielding a tool is very heavy.

 

[HydraLana]

Lanaskan uses the exotic Double bladed Katana.

John uses the Crossbow.

Yung-Li uses Butterfly Swords.

Leugel uses a special German Sword called a Zweihänder.​

 

[Mycin]

I personally would probably prefer a small hammer. Not a giant hammer that you see in those anime with tiny girls holding a big-ass sword with glyphs tattooed on them, along with some random demon butler. I feel nervous around sharp objects, like needles, swords, daggers. If you accidentally somehow ****ed up, you might cut yourself. With the hammer, I feel as if that may be different. Sorta safer. I don't think I like cutting people, or cutting other things. Bludgeoning them? Well, I wouldn't like that because it would still hurt a lot for people, but could probably knock them out to prevent pain. Rather than being shanked while your breathing. And conscious. And in pain. Screaming. Like how a mandrake would. I'm not very buff and strong like some people, but I don't think wielding a tool is very heavy.

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That's also a good point, weapons can be a personal preference. My favorite tool, that could be used as a weapon, is a seraded folding saw, used for cutting down shrubs. It folds down a nice small size, but can be unfolded to look like a small scythe, or a long knife thing. Just the look of it is scary enough to get people away.

 

[Jemo_]

-Takes his axe out of a tree- "What you lookin' at?"
You should make it more choises since I have 3 characters and they are all entirly different.

[Editing with some stuff writin' 'bout characters]

 

[Sav de Bunnies]

Reaches out with an open palm.
"Here I have come and here I stand to speak of my brothers of the empty hand."

Although my character is typical an unarmed fighter, he does carry a dagger (for sentimental reasons well as a weapon), and hunts with a bow.

 

[Xskill]

Why is Scythe an option? I don't even think you could use a scythe as a weapon.

 

[HereticTakao]

Why is Scythe an option? I don't even think you could use a scythe as a weapon.

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If its sharp enough.. than yeah.

 

[Magivore]

Why is Scythe an option? I don't even think you could use a scythe as a weapon.

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๖ۣۜI'd assume one could use it as an improvised one. Sure, highly inefficient as you can strike yourself and the range is only about two feet in front of you, but merely swing the... 'bladed'... part of it toward and enemy, you're bound to at least lob a large cut into their skin or even take off a finger, though it'd certainly be difficult to kill someone as it probably would break off plate or guard armour, and get a pretty bad scuff on chain-mail. Although it can be very useful if applied to the bare head.
Now, with all my older characters, I based them off dueling and fencing blades, as I wanted them to be somewhat related to me in reality, as I fence. Nendai-Ki Hensha is perhaps my first character who bases weapons off his own fangs, body, and staff. He wouldn't exactly be a good killer though, his teeth can't kill and he'd have to squeeze pretty tightly and for a minute or so to kill someone. Hence, the staff, once again, can be very useful if applied to the bare head.

I personally would probably prefer a small hammer. Not a giant hammer that you see in those anime with tiny girls holding a big-ass sword with glyphs tattooed on them, along with some random demon butler. I feel nervous around sharp objects, like needles, swords, daggers. If you accidentally somehow ****ed up, you might cut yourself. With the hammer, I feel as if that may be different. Sorta safer. I don't think I like cutting people, or cutting other things. Bludgeoning them? Well, I wouldn't like that because it would still hurt a lot for people, but could probably knock them out to prevent pain. Rather than being shanked while your breathing. And conscious. And in pain. Screaming. Like how a mandrake would. I'm not very buff and strong like some people, but I don't think wielding a tool is very heavy.

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Also, if you mess up with a hammer, since it is a bit 'heavy', I'd assume it might take a moment to set it back into position you need it to do real damage. Swords don't always need that much force to break skin (or just break themselves), whereas a hammer if pushed against someone can really only push the body back. Also, do note some swords are made specifically to 'prevent' pain, as pain causes adrenaline, and adrenaline can cause your opponent to have about 60 seconds left to do whatever they want with more might and speed by the effects of that adrenaline. That hammer would do more than knock them out; just hitting them with it in the first place can later on cause chronic pains, broken bones, or in the case you have brought up, broken skulls and permanently damaged brains. Just because they're on the ground with their eyes shut, doesn't mean there isn't still tons of pain when they wake up, or if they ever do, or if they even got knocked out in the first place and not just thrown into shock!

 

[HereticTakao]

Well my character really can't use weapons, Since he is a Mage. So I guess he would use a dagger or his fist.

 

[Xskill]

@MageDarkMagic @Chronicler

I suppose but you'd probably have a better time just taking the bit off and using the stick as a staff since you would have to remount the blade anyway. Scythes were designed to cut grasses, so they're not really substantial enough to get through thick clothing, let alone armor.

@Mycin_Alchemist

Just a note on previous comment, I'm fairly sure that it was a legal requirement in the late medieval period in England that every man between a certain age had to own weapons like swords or bows and stuff. I have to look up the specifics again, but yeah.

 

[LordSylveon]

It seems that people think swords are paper here. Sad face.

Ya'll need to find a better blacksmith.