No, certainly not, it's wrong for people to dog and snarl at people who want to open a dialogue to look at the problem.
While one or two of the images posted aren't helping the conversation progress, people will post what they wish. I've honestly done nothing to spur on the images, in fact, I've been trying to respond to the multiple novels presented by those that /are/ taking part in the conversation. Apologies if you think I'm associating with others to cause issues here, but I can assure you, I'm doing my best to be civil and open-minded.
I totally agree with this! There is a kid at my school, who's name I will not state, who is on the chubby side and people pick on him for no reason. He did nothing, yet they still pick on him.
I suppose if you want to selectively model anything I say to this specific scenario, I can't stop you
I don't believe I actually remarked much on the content of the post, rather an observation made on the thread itself, so that's why I'm a bit confused as to why you responded to me rather than whoever else. In any case, I definitely understand what you're saying, though I'd hazard my observation still stands and even persists.
Perhaps my statement wasn't entirely explanatory enough. What people here ascribe as bullying isn't bullying at all. I've seen statements ranged from exclusion to being criticized in a constructive and helpful manner for personality flaws as bullying, even though reality is quite simple: Nobody has to be put up with your shit. ("your" meaning, globally, not you as a person in this situation). If you're ungrateful, plain disturbingly weird, disrespectful, spiteful, two-faced or just a plain troll, expect to be excluded and ridiculed. Pointing out that flaw in another person doesn't make the person pointing it out a bully, nor can you deflect it back on them by saying they want to feel better by pointing out flaws in other people. What happened to the world where you can't even express irritation in someone else's behavior in a constructive, helpful and well meaning manner without being labeled a bully. The whole concept of not being allowed to be critical of one another in a direct, respectful manner, "reminds one of the worst excesses of the French Revolution". To quote The importance of being Earnest.
I feel that isolation and intentionally excluding others can certainly be considered bullying-- that or at the very least, an attempt to make another feel worthless or far from normal. Regardless of its label, it's not a positive tactic. If the person in question /is/ one or more of these things you've stated, does that make them inherently bad or worth shunning? Mistakes can be made. We're only human.
Is emotional judgment any less valid? I feel that it ties mostly into a sense of ethics and moral fiber, and I'm quite sure you don't want to bring any sort of religious undertones into this discussion.
Could you point out what I am defending and what posts are being deleted and censored? I feel like you didn't read my reply at all.
How can I agree with this without saying ditto or pressing the agree button? I agree? That works.Let us take this time to pause, reflect, and react on everything that is causing such concerns. People have spoken out, voiced their apprehensions, and others have made an attempt to either support or deflect such thoughts.
Instead of aimlessly debating on who is right or wrong, who is supportive or dismissive, let us consider the backbone of this whole discussion. People are feeling either unwelcome here, or are feeling put down by certain groups of people. We should embrace this issue with open arms, and work to progress in a sense that all can feel better.
Toss aside the shady pictures and little quips, and let us work towards something that is both productive and supportive to the issue we are discussing here.
I wasn't talking to you, mon, don't worry.
While this is true, I've read a few testimonies, specifically on this thread, that cite instances of bullying or feeling estranged. I believe the point @CandiAnne was trying to make was merely that a lot of the discussion has devolved into bickering about images posted, overlooking a lot of the good points made by other members of this community.
But from what I understand, it's not just poorly behaved players that are being shunned! Woah!! What a surprise! Though, from what I've seen, people tend to either a) roleplay with their friends (which is understandable) or b) flat out ignore players who aren't well-known or have white tags. It's a huge segregation, and it pushes others away from joining or interacting.
One of the jobs of a moderator, in my not-proffesional-at-all-opinion, is that they are supposed to keep little kids from doing stupid things, and stopping little kids from hurting others. Otherwise, a sitter. Just uh. Just uh, saying as a little add on to that.
I tried very hard with you. I quite specifically recall sitting down with you several times to try and make your experience better. I went against the norm, criticized, and held responsible the entire social group we were part of. In the end you sort of flopped all my words into the wind, recused yourself from any wrongdoings and stuck up the middle finger to everyone. I sitted. You didn't want to be sitted or couldn't accept that you weren't the 100% innocent victim.
But isn't there an entire department dedicted to helping other players, or watching over them? That sounds a lot like sitting to me, or at least, something like that.
Thank you so very much for stepping forward. I can relate wholeheartedly in that aspect, as I consider myself to be timid, fearful, and afraid of making others feel badly. It means a lot that you would step out of your comfort zone to help bring attention to this issue of yours, mine, and all those others that have presented allusions to their personal experience.
why are you making this about sitting one specific person? the way you had tried to help him isn't what he's criticizing -- it's the way you are trying to help every one else.
It's a case by example. The disturbing trend of the majority of the toxic attitudes directed around here have come from people whom I have personally tried to help once, one way or another, when I was directly aware of their issues.
