Close Knit Community Possibly At Risk

Alj23 · Apr 11, 2013

Would everyone here agree that the community in Massivecraft is a close knit one? With a 150 player cap, everyone seems to know everyone. I for one love this close knit community, surrounded by friends and allies. I know that server techs are currently working on sharding, which will eventually allow us a much larger player cap, (Upwards of a couple hundred, correct)? When server sharding is complete, and our player cap raised, I'm afraid the close knit community we have come to know and be a part of will vanish. Now some of you may be thinking that more players equals more fun, Example (Giant Raids/battles, bigger factions, larger events, etc). I'm afraid with a larger server cap we will have an influx of trolls and hackers galore, ruining RP and our current community. In no way am I against a raised server cap, I just don't think it should be raised drastically. I also fear admins will have their hands full banning new possible trolls and hackers left and right, drawing them away from other things.

This is just something I have been thinking about, feel free to agree or disagree with me, and post below, just please avoid any insulting.

Mecharic · Apr 11, 2013

Perhaps they could install/develop an anti-hack plugin to let off some of the work load? Would also make sense to start training some more IG staff to help with the future influx.

Tubbytundra · Apr 11, 2013

Well it may, but it will also cause more diversity to the server with new opinions, player views, and the possibility for these 'close knit communities' to expand.

Alj23 · Apr 11, 2013

Mecharic said:
Perhaps they could install/develop an anti-hack plugin to let off some of the work load? Would also make sense to start training some more IG staff to help with the future influx.

Two great points Mecharic. I wondered if they had an anti-hack plugin. Training more IG staff would also help as well.

Waminer · Apr 11, 2013

I was actually thinking the exact same thing as you Alj23. I just didnt know how to post it without provoking all the "This is an RP server? I though RP were the excuses to attack celebrations we made up on the spot!" people that like nothing better than more lambs to the slaughter and less RP.

Alj23 · Apr 11, 2013

Tubbytundra said:
Well it may, but it will also cause more diversity to the server with new opinions, player views, and the possibility for these 'close knit communities' to expand.

I am all for our community to expand, as long as we retain our current "Close Knitness" we have at the moment. (I believe I just made something new up.

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Joshy54100 · Apr 11, 2013

Alj23 said:
Two great points Mecharic. I wondered if they had an anti-hack plugin. Training more IG staff would also help as well.

I know they have Oreubfuscator, a plugin that stops x-rayers from being able to see rare minerals or other things with some fancy server magic, but I would also assume they have some other form of anti-cheat plugin.

Alj23 · Apr 11, 2013

Waminer said:
I just didnt know how to post it without provoking all the "This is an RP server? I though RP were the excuses to attack celebrations we made up on the spot!" people that like nothing better than more lambs to the slaughter and less RP.

When I drafted this post, I carefully picked my words as to not provoke the very thing you brought up. I understand the RP more people would add to this server, but weigh it along side the people that want to just spam, troll, and hack. Is it really worth it?

Waminer · Apr 11, 2013

I personally thinking that we keep the entire combined servers' limits at a total of 300-450 lots of new blood and diversity, the ability for non-premiums to actually play during the week days, better events would all be great, however.... I'm afraid to keep are relatively great community as good as it is now we must think about something else very huge in importance....... A whitelist...... DUN DUN DUUUN.

Alj23 · Apr 11, 2013

Joshy54100 said:
I know they have Oreubfuscator, a plugin that stops x-rayers from being able to see rare minerals or other things with some fancy server magic, but I would also assume they have some other form of anti-cheat plugin.

I think this may have been removed due to the FPS drop it was causing people. (correct me if I'm wrong.) I do not know what it would take to develop an anti-hacking plugin, coding wise. I also believe moderators would have to deal with griefers, trolls, and spammers directly, taking up their time.

Tubbytundra · Apr 11, 2013

A nice thing is that this will be like the population boom of the 1960's, when society began to change for the better.

Alj23 · Apr 11, 2013

Tubbytundra said:
A nice thing is that this will be like the population boom of the 1960's, when society began to change for the better.

Or it could go in the completely opposite way..

Joshy54100 · Apr 11, 2013

Waminer said:
I personally thinking that we keep the entire combined servers' limits at a total of 300-450 lots of new blood and diversity, the ability for non-premiums to actually play during the week days, better events would all be great, however.... I'm afraid to keep are relatively great community as good as it is now we must think about something else very huge in importance....... A whitelist...... DUN DUN DUUUN.

This might be good, I know several other fairly large servers like us such as The Lord of the Craft does this. Although, we would have a new mountain on our hands, Mt. UnassessedWhitelistApplications

Alj23 · Apr 11, 2013

Joshy54100 said:
This might be good, I know several other fairly large servers like us such as The Lord of the Craft does this. Although, we would have a new mountain on our hands, Mt. UnassessedWhitelistApplications

Having a whitelist would make it so you had to apply to play Massivecraft? I do not think the server mods would go for this, because of what Joshy said, it would mean tons of work.

favoured · Apr 11, 2013

Umm, I think you guys might not like this, but your underestimating server sharding. Last time I heard, it was upwards to a 10,000 player cap. Soooooo, yea....

Joshy54100 · Apr 11, 2013

*jaw hits the floor* Ouch, I tripped.

Alj23 · Apr 11, 2013

favoured said:
Umm, I think you guys might not like this, but your underestimating server sharding. Last time I heard, it was upwards to a 10,000 player cap. Soooooo, yea....

I knew it was high, and was worried it would be this high. If 10,000 players can be on the server at once, well.... I don't have a solution for that. Imagine getting raided by a faction with 100 plus people in it, or a faction having 1000 claim power...:|

ozgho · Apr 11, 2013

I hardly know and/or talk to anyone outside my own faction.

Not everyone is deep in the community.

Alj23 · Apr 11, 2013

Ozgho said:
I hardly know and/or talk to anyone outside my own faction.

Not everyone is deep in the community.

Alot of people are, having ties to a lot of the bigger, more known factions,

Joshy54100 · Apr 11, 2013

Ozgho said:
I hardly know and/or talk to anyone outside my own faction.

Not everyone is deep in the community.

I have already begun to weigh my potential allies and enemies strength's and weaknesses without them even knowing it... Sort of. Mainly by ways of the forum.

Mecharic · Apr 11, 2013

No whitelist... just get like 1 admin for every 100 players. Or make it so that anyone caught greifing gets an autopermban, no admins needed. Or perhaps some kind of AI Admin to respond to /helpop's with certain key words (like chest removal, hacking accusations, spam, and griefing?).

Regardless of what the admins do, I am sure they have debated this themselves many times. As for the actualy size, I believe it was 150-200 slots per world, so right now only a few thousand people (ONLY).

Alj23 · Apr 11, 2013

Random thought- Think of the amount of global spam, or how many factions would be created, you thought we had a lot of factions now, ohhhh,,, just wait.(facepalm)

ozgho · Apr 11, 2013

Alj23 said:
Random thought- Think of the amount of global spam, or how many factions would be created, you thought we had a lot of factions now, ohhhh,,, just wait.(facepalm)

You don't have to worry about the 100 member battles anymore. :3

Waminer · Apr 11, 2013

Umm, I think you guys might not like this, but your underestimating server sharding. Last time I heard, it was upwards to a 10,000 player cap. Soooooo, yea....

I don't mean I whitelist in the traditional sense aka answering a ton of complex questions, voting for the server, Ect. Rather what I meant was a as quite simple thing like this that allows you in just by completing it.

IGN: Derpherpenson
RP Character Name: Derpherpenson the fifth
Have you ever RPed before?: Derp whats RP....
You a human bro?: YEPSIR.
Congrats you are ONE OF US. ONE OF US. Please read the IG tutorial. HAVE FUN!

Alj23 · Apr 11, 2013

Waminer said:
I don't mean I whitelist in the traditional sense aka answering a ton of complex questions, voting for the server, Ect. Rather what I meant was a as quite simple thing like this that allows you in just by completing it.

IGN: Derpherpenson
RP Character Name: Derpherpenson the fifth
Have you ever RPed before?: Derp whats RP....
You a human bro?: YEPSIR.
Congrats you are ONE OF US. ONE OF US. Please read the IG tutorial. HAVE FUN!

I guess this could work, but just take note that not everyone who plays on this server RPs, I personally don't.

Made_By · Apr 11, 2013

The is a difference between Thee massivecraft community and ther massivecraft community. We will always remain a tight community, it is just gradually more and more will come into that.

Waminer · Apr 11, 2013

I guess this could work, but just take note that not everyone who plays on this server RPs, I personally don't.

And that is part of the damn reason why we need a whitelist! This is an RP server? there are plenty of other PVP servers to join, or building servers, or faction servers, or hunger games servers, or the Shortbow network, or single player...... The possibilities are endless!(hug)(clap)

Mecharic · Apr 11, 2013

The problem with a whitelist is that it would vastly lower the rate at which new users join. Yes, it would aid the RP, but it would prevent so many new players from learning what RP servers are really like. I also feel it would violate some sort of unwritten rule about the server, that rule that says anyone and everyone is welcome to come and play on this server.

Alj23 · Apr 11, 2013

Waminer said:
And that is part of the damn reason why we need a whitelist! This is an RP server? there are plenty of other PVP servers to join, or building servers, or faction servers, or hunger games servers, or the Shortbow network, or single player...... The possibilities are endless!(hug)(clap)

I would say this is a RP server, coupled along with everything else you listed.

ozgho · Apr 11, 2013

Mecharic said:
The problem with a whitelist is that it would vastly lower the rate at which new users join. Yes, it would aid the RP, but it would prevent so many new players from learning what RP servers are really like. I also feel it would violate some sort of unwritten rule about the server, that rule that says anyone and everyone is welcome to come and play on this server.

Yeah. Massivecraft has never resorted to a whitelist, and I don't think the creators would like to start.

favoured · Apr 11, 2013

Say what you will, but I'm eagerly awaiting the day I can brag to people "I was here when Cerdia was still a world!"

Commanderkull · Apr 11, 2013

I can not think of one PVP faction server that i have played on that is better than massive. All of you whiners out there, "Oh i dont like PVP, i just want to RP", "Cap the MCMMO its sooo OP OMG", and it continues. Deal with fighting, stop whining about it. Every time i see someone whining about PVP it pisses me off so much. PVP is a huge part of RP.

Alj23 · Apr 11, 2013

Mecharic said:
The problem with a whitelist is that it would vastly lower the rate at which new users join. Yes, it would aid the RP, but it would prevent so many new players from learning what RP servers are really like. I also feel it would violate some sort of unwritten rule about the server, that rule that says anyone and everyone is welcome to come and play on this server.

"Welcome to MassiveCraft, the medieval fantasy roleplaying minecraft server. Our IP is mc.massivecraft.com. We have no whitelist and you are most welcome! Join us right away and bring your friends too. Together we will have great fun!"
You make an excellent point, and here is what you are referencing to back it up![DOUBLEPOST=1365734702,1365734551][/DOUBLEPOST]

Commanderkull said:
I can not think of one PVP faction server that i have played on that is better than massive. All of you whiners out there, "Oh i dont like PVP, i just want to RP", "Cap the MCMMO its sooo OP OMG", and it continues. Deal with fighting, stop whining about it. Every time i see someone whining about PVP it pisses me off so much. PVP is a huge part of RP.

I love the PVP on this server. What makes it so great is how it is coupled with everything else. (RP, Factions, etc)[DOUBLEPOST=1365734833][/DOUBLEPOST]

Commanderkull said:
All of you whiners out there, "Oh i dont like PVP, i just want to RP", "Cap the MCMMO its sooo OP OMG", and it continues. Deal with fighting, stop whining about it. Every time i see someone whining about PVP it pisses me off so much. PVP is a huge part of RP.

Are you referring to me or anyone who has posted in this thread as the "whiners"?

ozgho · Apr 11, 2013

Commanderkull said:
I can not think of one PVP faction server that i have played on that is better than massive. All of you whiners out there, "Oh i dont like PVP, i just want to RP", "Cap the MCMMO its sooo OP OMG", and it continues. Deal with fighting, stop whining about it. Every time i see someone whining about PVP it pisses me off so much. PVP is a huge part of RP.

That's why people who don't want to fight should act in the roleplay way, and run. I like to think of myself as a fairly competent soldier, but if two armored players are coming at me, I'mma ollie outie.

Commanderkull · Apr 11, 2013

Alj23 said:
"Welcome to MassiveCraft, the medieval fantasy roleplaying minecraft server. Our IP is mc.massivecraft.com. We have no whitelist and you are most welcome! Join us right away and bring your friends too. Together we will have great fun!"
You make an excellent point, and here is what you are referencing to back it up![DOUBLEPOST=1365734702,1365734551][/DOUBLEPOST]
I love the PVP on this server. What makes it so great is how it is coupled with everything else. (RP, Factions, etc)[DOUBLEPOST=1365734833][/DOUBLEPOST]
Are you referring to me or anyone who has posted in this thread as the "whiners"?

No but I am referring to waimer. He said PVPers go play on a PVP server. I have not found a better pvp server than massive. This is the only server I have ever donated to.

Alj23 · Apr 11, 2013

Commanderkull said:
No but I am referring to waimer. He said PVPers go play on a PVP server. I have not found a better pvp server than massive. This is the only server I have ever donated to.

Please do not start a heated argument, this is not what this thread is for. If you want to go argue, go do it on one of the many war threads you comment on.(chuckle)

Commanderkull · Apr 11, 2013

Alj23 said:
Please do not start a heated argument, this is not what this thread is for. If you want to go argue, go do it on one of the many war threads you comment on.(chuckle)

No I was just saying that I think that massive tops the other PVP servers. Also I have no war threads to be funny on, so sad. :'(

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