Who Polices The Police?

[formeo]

Fact: Admin Kidmodo was in Magnanimous on 10-18-14 when a 75 day truce was bartered to avoid war.
Fact: Admin Kidmodo joined Mithril and declared war (not the leader, btw) against my faction within this 75 day period.
Fact: Admin Kidmodo and his mananimous friends were using a fully locked portal, which kidmodo picked the ticket for.
Fact: Admin Kidmodo has been retaliating against me for posting the ticket about his fully locked portal.
Fact: Admin Kidmodo continued to attack after surrender was called for, in direct violation of:

• If a surrender is called for, the attacking faction must immediately stop.

Fact: Admin Kidmodo made several false claims about his admin powers during our discussions about his abuse.

For your enjoyment, screens follow.

 

[starkiller_117]

Errrr...

Fact, Kidmodo is rank 1, not an admin.
And I honestly don't see much wrong, other than another case of "staff abuse" being called out when they try and play the game normally.

 

[HydraLana]

I think you probably should have made a report instead of posting this kind of thing publicly. It can generate some...disturbances around the forums

 

[Greenie]

For a second I thought this was a Yogscast reference. Oh well.

 

[OldManJ98]

Fact: Your proof does not show much, it just seems like you are trying to entrap him and only show him getting angry with you, not any actual things happening.
Fact: You use the word fact to much for debatable things

 

[darkarely]

As far as I know, you haven't paid a surrender term to any of the officer of Mithril. If you do call surrender, then that mean right after you would have paid one of the terms of surrender. You didn't do that, so Kidmodo can still raid you, and our war still continues.

 

[Suzzie]

Fact: This doesn't prove much of /anything/...
I think you miss interpreted something Kido did/said. He's a nice guy.​

 

[Mattium_]

@formeo I'm not saying that I agree with you, but seeing as you did this in a almost appropiate way, I would like to suggest something for your benefit.
Firstly, lock this and re-apply this if you have serious concerns to the report sub-category on this forums.
Not only is that because that's why it's there, but also because people in this community have a tendency to jump onto negative posts. You know, there's a reason that Bad news always sells better .
Really hope something like this situation doesn't affect your game-play with this server. There's plenty of cool stuff still about it!

 

[Jamtrav]

Fact: You're getting upset for staff trying to be a person and play a game instead of being a 24/7 help machine. (Picture 1)
Fact: Even if emeralds are locked, people can still use portal.
Fact: you say fact too much.

 

[indyfan98]

Police police police Police police.
^ Complete sentence.

 

[BillyTheScruffy]

As far as I know, you haven't paid a surrender term to any of the officer of Mithril. If you do call surrender, then that mean right after you would have paid one of the terms of surrender. You didn't do that, so Kidmodo can still raid you, and our war still continues.

Click to shrink...

I am King William of Mithril, and I approve this message. (Y)

 

[Deadfoe51]

Perhaps it is a good idea to get @Kidmodo 's opinion on this whole thing, before conclusions are jumped to? Personally, I much prefer not to take sides, so I wouldn't mind seeing what Kid has to say about this. Although, one thing I can say is: Kidmodo is only a Game 1, meaning he doesn't have a huge huge amount in the admin powers department.

 

[BillyTheScruffy]

This isnt a matter of kid having to defend himself, This is not the place for this in the first place. Kidmodo placed the war on Torkle on my command. He couldnt care less about the faction. Infact, everything you read on the war declaration I wrote. I'll be taking my Man Booker Prize for author of the year, thank you very much.

 

[Kidmodo]

The one thing I have to say for this post (and only thing) is that next time show are entire conversation. Such as I yelled at the member that made the illegal portal and got the locks removed so you then could destroy the portal if you wished. Also you never paid me or another online officer with the max tribute and gave you some minutes to pay for it. Then when the payment wasn't made I went back to raiding since I assumed that you were only calling for it to stop the raid, with no real means to actually pay the money. Kidmodo's first and last post on this forum page.

 

[Omnomivore]

I am going to lock this thread and leave it for the appropriate direction staff to respond to, when they are next available to do so.

Please post such complaints in the appropriate section of the forums next time:

http://forums.massivecraft.com/forms/complaint-against-staff.6/respond

Please abide by the forums rules and do not post threads which may be used solely to incite flame.

 

[MonMarty]

Dear @formeo
I'll give a formal response since there is none to your post. First of all, I will say that posting these "rant threads" in topic when feeling a staff member abused you is hardly a good idea. Perhaps it is when the claims are correct, but you tend to face a lot of public scrutiny if you falsely accuse a staff member. Just imagine how other people would feel about you if you just complained about the people who help them falsely just because you're angry with them. The staff complaint section exists both to allow us a calm and reasonable approach to conflicts with staff, but also to protect you from harming your own reputation when you are incorrect. After all, when we are angry, we are more prone to making mistakes.

Now as to the actual content of the thread:

It is fairly evident that Kidmodo continues killing you even though you are using local chat to surrender.

• Firstly, it is not recommended to use local chat to surrender. Your chat messages are not as obvious as the purple private MSG, and if Kidmodo has both Help chat, Staff chat and General chat enabled, your messages are easily overlooked. The best effective way to communicate a surrender, is trough Private Message.
• Secondly, it is recommended to surrender to the Faction leader in private message instead of a new officer such as Kidmodo. I do not know the internal functioning of Mithril's command structure with regards to surrenders and victories, but most factions have relation control restricted to their leader, meaning only the leader can accept the surrender. I looked up the logs and noticed that BillyA835, the leader of Mithril was online at the time and helping people in help chat. You didn't bother contacting him.
• Thirdly, Kidmodo is an active member of Mithril. I happen to have some insight in saying that he beliefs Magnanimus as a faction is done for as long as they have no central leadership, and he is making an active commitment to Mithril now. There is no speaking of faction hopping in any way as Kidmodo is not planning on going back to Magnanimus. The reason for the war on your faction in proximity to Mithril, which is ran by BillyA835, it has nothing to do with Magnanimus.
• Fourthly, the best and indisputably most effective way, is to transfer the surrender costs to the faction leader upon factual surrender. I noticed the surrender cost was only 380 Regals, and having 5,500 something regals yourself, you could easily have paid the terms. War terms are non negotiable, either you surrender and pay the war tribute that was requested or you're not surrendering. Mithril even provided 5 alternatives for you and you never accepted one of them.
• Fourthly, there is no rule that dictates a warring faction cannot continue raiding you when you have only invoked the word "surrender". The only factual recognition of a surrender or period of terms negotiations, if such a thing even existed, would be on the war declaration thread. That thread would be here. You have not posted there, so your faction still isn't surrendering.
• Lastly, MassiveCraft has anti spawn camping methods implemented. You will always need to use at least one command or active action to be kill able again by your enemies, therefor the fact that Kidmodo killed you more than once is entirely your own fault. You could have used private message from the world spawn instead of teleporting back 4 or 5 times and getting killed while conveying a message in local chat.

Throughout your interactions with Kidmodo, Thortuna and several members of Mithril, you've been nothing but disrespectful and shown extreme contempt for staff who try to help you and reply with rude snappy comments in return. This brings you in violation with Rule 2, rule 8 and rule 18 subsection 4. Additionally, I conclude from the points provided above that you have gone out of your way to make Kidmodo look more guilty than he actually is, which is innocent. You've gone out of your way to publicly defame Kidmodo because you have a problem with his past faction and him as a member of said past faction.

As a consequence of these numerous violations, I have decided to temporarily disallow you access to the server for 4 days. I suggest you use these days to reflect upon your choices and actions undertaken, and also consider using the correct communication channels to convey your surrender and negotiate whatever needs to be negotiated.

I would additionally like to press onto you that this amount of toxicity is not healthy on a MineCraft game. The raids are just about bits and numbers, there's really no need to get this angry at people and accuse them of things that aren't true. It's bad for your health.