Archived [suggestion]give The Vampire Shriek Something

[Black_heart]

To any of you guys who think "ohhhh vampire bloodlust=op nerf pls" or think "vampire has skills shriek doesnt need anything" how would you like it if lets say they added fire touch to agni or tsunami on the water race but it did absolutely nothing.Being able to die with 2 hits of a wooden weapon or just staying in the sun too long is not fun,and i think if your gonna have a vampire race at least give the full package. sorry if i sound harsh just trying to get my point through

Im thinking of like anyone in a 5 or 4 block radius will get a wither poison effect or get disarmed,what do you think?

if you got any other ideas tell me yea? would love to hear it ^^[DOUBLEPOST=1367908869,1367908522][/DOUBLEPOST]or a blinding effect

 

[TechPac]

No what im trying to say is that not all vampires are godly armord,you know how hard it is to get god armor?even if they had god armor it would only iron cause diamond is for premium,you say vampires are op due to the armor like as if we get a free set of god armor or 500 exp to enchant once you turn into a vampire[DOUBLEPOST=1367947010,1367947004][/DOUBLEPOST]
No what im trying to say is that not all vampires are godly armord,you know how hard it is to get god armor?even if they had god armor it would only iron cause diamond is for premium,you say vampires are op due to the armor like as if we get a free set of god armor or 500 exp to enchant once you turn into a vampire

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Even though im not keen on his suggestion, he has a point, not everyone can get those easily. Which kinda makes the situation worse, player gets beat, player spams darkroom for mcmmo and enchants, now theres another god pvper on the server, players with high mcmmo stats were so rare back in they day, now ive seen people only be on the server for a month have stats in the thousands.

 

[favoured]

I like this idea, why else are they called the dragonborn? They should be able to yell FUS DO RAH and have their enemies... wait..... this isn't Skyrim......

 

[ozgho]

No what im trying to say is that not all vampires are godly armord,you know how hard it is to get god armor?even if they had god armor it would only iron cause diamond is for premium,you say vampires are op due to the armor like as if we get a free set of god armor or 500 exp to enchant once you turn into a vampire

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I fully understand that there are vampires who don't use god armor. However, if a non-prem vamp is smart, they can also do a bit of damage with iron armor. Now I ask everyone to note I am saying smart. If you are a new player, and want to play as a vampire, you cannot simply bloodlust into a battle. You have to be creative.

Which perfectly rounds back into my point about the shriek ability being used for non-orthodox methods.

 

[Waminer]

I cannot wait until Vampirism is nerfed and all the PVP factions that use them have to change to something that gives them a slightly even playing field and have to admit they at heart were just the equivalent of Vampire noobs just were smart enough to waste hours of their life grinding axe skill.

 

[Black_heart]

I fully understand that there are vampires who don't use god armor. However, if a non-prem vamp is smart, they can also do a bit of damage with iron armor.

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exactly,they only do a bit of damage,and you still can easily die from 2-3 hits of wood items,no matter how good of a pvper you are you are gonna get hit sooner or later, you have to take in all the factors here

 

[favoured]

Vampires are overpowered. Here's the proof. Look at the good pvpers on this server. How many of them are vampires, and how many of them are vampires for the rp? Vampirism isn't a disease anymore, its a benefit.

 

[Black_heart]

erm,where is the proof? you saying "heres the proof" doesnt make it proof

 

[favoured]

I said that most good pvpers are vampires on this server, and very few of them actually roleplay as vampires. Connect the dots, what does that say about vampirism? It says the benefits by far outweigh the cons, and that vampirism as such is no longer a disease, its a benefit.

 

[MonMarty]

This guy is getting a lot of unnecessary hate for a suggestion.

 

[morgan_slater]

Vampires are already too overpowered, and have a nerf coming in their future, why would they get another combat related power?

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Honestly, the comments should have ended with that...

 

[Black_heart]

Then instead of suggesting to make the war machines even more effecitve killers, you rather should suggest diamond armor for non premiums. (Which has by the way been suggested many times and was rejected.)
Right now nearly nobody here supports/likes your suggestion.

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oh so what happens so those who have paid?if its been suggested many times and it got rejected then does me suggesting it again make it passable?i know it has supporters cause its a general thing,thats like saying everyone will support me if i suggest the server give everyone a god sword,even if the whole server supports me on something its still up to the owner to implement it or not,also if even reading about all weaknesses and how vampires die really easily from the mcmmo and water but you still think vampires are op you just suck at pvp so dont take it out on the vampires go to a dark room or something[DOUBLEPOST=1367980316,1367980197][/DOUBLEPOST]

This guy is getting a lot of unnecessary hate for a suggestion.

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lol your like the first one to notice <3

 

[FCCarnilord]

Hate is the least we can do JK however fav's point I can understand, I mean when I fight someone, they are usually vamp. Also, there ARE very few RP vamps, but then again, I feel they are balanced because 1 exp on a wooden sword makes a sharp 1 wood sword, which is pretty much the you are fricked sword. Sucks at pvp? Not true, they are disorientingly fast when using bloodlust, making it decently hard to hit them. Also, they are in-game ninjas while using it, and they can continually do critical hits by (fall from jump, HIT) with the fact them jumping makes it hard to hit them more than once. However, THE MAIN thing is the vampires are balanced, but no one focuses on EVERY downside, but only a few. Take holy water, immediately weakens them. Any time in the sun, they are blind and cannot focus on even middle ranged targets. Include wood with those status effects, they are sitting ducks. Add them on YOUR land, and those factors, they will be running home to mom in no time. This is MY point of view on the subject, however it may not be correct.

 

[Black_heart]

I said that most good pvpers are vampires on this server, and very few of them actually roleplay as vampires. Connect the dots, what does that say about vampirism? It says the benefits by far outweigh the cons, and that vampirism as such is no longer a disease, its a benefit.

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so your telling me the vampire is supposed to be a con? if thats the case why botther adding it in the first place?[DOUBLEPOST=1367981281,1367981192][/DOUBLEPOST]

Hate is the least we can do JK however fav's point I can understand, I mean when I fight someone, they are usually vamp. Also, there ARE very few RP vamps, but then again, I feel they are balanced because 1 exp on a wooden sword makes a sharp 1 wood sword, which is pretty much the you are fricked sword. Sucks at pvp? Not true, they are disorientingly fast when using bloodlust, making it decently hard to hit them. Also, they are in-game ninjas while using it, and they can continually do critical hits by (fall from jump, HIT) with the fact them jumping makes it hard to hit them more than once. However, THE MAIN thing is the vampires are balanced, but no one focuses on EVERY downside, but only a few. Take holy water, immediately weakens them. Any time in the sun, they are blind and cannot focus on even middle danged targets. Include wood with those status effects, they are sitting ducks. Add them on YOUR land, and those factors, they will be running home to mom in no time. This is MY point of view on the subject, however it may not be correct.

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SOMEONE FINALLY GETS IT <3

 

[favoured]

Black_heart, what does the term disease mean? Is this what disease is supposed to be?

Disease- Something everyone should get if they want to fight better. It has a few negative effects, but overall its good.

I usually assume a disease is something.... idk... that is more negative than good? Just an idea. Vampirism is supposed to be extremely rare, not spread everywhere!

 

[FCCarnilord]

I imagine (may not be correct) fav is stating that a disease is something bad for you, and people are calling vampirism a disease when they say it is "OP" at the same time. Most things are usually a side-grade, and can be minorly better to just the same, so technically vampirism is not a disease because it can SOMEWHAT help you, but it is a mutation/spell.

 

[ozgho]

Black_heart, what does the term disease mean? Is this what disease is supposed to be?

Disease- Something everyone should get if they want to fight better. It has a few negative effects, but overall its good.

I usually assume a disease is something.... idk... that is more negative than good? Just an idea. Vampirism is supposed to be extremely rare, not spread everywhere!

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There a zombies and skeletons everywhere, why not vampires? makes my job more interesting.

 

[favoured]

Ok then I do admit a epidemic of vampires can liven up a situation, however, it makes no sense if all those vampires are going "IMMA BOSS AT PVP MO'FO'S!"

 

[FCCarnilord]

In Pcp they excel if in the right situation, like anything else. They shouldn't be really saying they are much better at Pcp when they can be wreckes by someone clever.[DOUBLEPOST=1367982271,1367982236][/DOUBLEPOST]Darn you auto correct on the kindle fire...

 

[favoured]

Hey, don't get me wrong. I remember when Stven and two more Argonian vampires noobrushed us for 4 hours, and we kept slaughtering them over that span of time. I also remember when Stven got a full set of enchanted diamond armor, drank a fire resist potion, and became invincible with bloodlust.

 

[FCCarnilord]

Considering he gains hunger from hits, it becomes endless. Also, its full enchanted diamond. He is already invincible. Protection 3 diamond makes you hard to beat, with the cost of armour breaking faster. Technically, the bloodlust does not really do much, but have an overall 10% less damage and run faster.[DOUBLEPOST=1367983385,1367983288][/DOUBLEPOST]Ah, the days of insults I hear from 8 year Ole's coming from someoen owning. The irony couldn't even be cut.[DOUBLEPOST=1367983437][/DOUBLEPOST]Of course NOW it doesn't auto correct when I spell terribly...

 

[favoured]

You say it technically doesn't do much, then you consider the 8 TPS......

 

[ozgho]

This has fallen far off topic from simply discussing the vampire's shriek ability.

OPness of vampires isn't the point of this thread.

 

[TechPac]

Vampires are overpowered. Here's the proof. Look at the good pvpers on this server. How many of them are vampires, and how many of them are vampires for the rp? Vampirism isn't a disease anymore, its a benefit.

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That mostly proves that the mcmmo is the OP thing, not vampirism, just vampirism makes it worse.

 

[Watchdogeditor]

Ozgho is right, this is vastly off-topic and should be locked. As for my two cents (I can't resist), I've had plenty of near-death experiences with noobs with no armour nearly slaughtering me with just their fists, back in the days of 1-4 TPS, simply because I couldn't land a single hit, and they'd wear me down eventually. If your enemy is unhittable, deals a small amount of damage over time, and can move faster than you, there's no way of winning. Especially if that ability recharges every time he lands a hit on you.

 

[MonMarty]

Vampires are supposed to be overpowered. It is silly to believe that everything should be equal on the server.

How much the vampires are overpowered however, is what is an issue to us, that will be adressed eventually.

 

[Black_heart]

i honestly find this fun but yea its getting off topic,can like the owner or whoever just say yes or no to the shriek then this will be all over, to me tyis is like server bonding or somethin <3

 

[Shawzie]

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oh so what happens so those who have paid?if its been suggested many times and it got rejected then does me suggesting it again make it passable?i know it has supporters cause its a general thing,thats like saying everyone will support me if i suggest the server give everyone a god sword,even if the whole server supports me on something its still up to the owner to implement it or not,also if even reading about all weaknesses and how vampires die really easily from the mcmmo and water but you still think vampires are op you just suck at pvp so dont take it out on the vampires go to a dark room or something[DOUBLEPOST=1367980316,1367980197][/DOUBLEPOST]
lol your like the first one to notice <3

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I wouldn't want a god sword. 1. Everyone would be going to war for these swords. 2. And what if I slice my finger with it when I'm cooking steak :O cause I'd go on fire and Fly away :O

 

[Black_heart]

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I wouldn't want a god sword. 1. Everyone would be going to war for these swords. 2. And what if I slice my finger with it when I'm cooking steak :O cause I'd go on fire and Fly away :O

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but what about the 500 exp hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmMMMMMMMMM

 

[illogicalleaf314]

That mostly proves that the mcmmo is the OP thing, not vampirism, just vampirism makes it worse.

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You have to work for mcmmo, not vampirism, but that's off topic, so I won't say any more.

but what about the 500 exp hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmMMMMMMMMM

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Not every vampire has god armour, but what people are saying is that changes like this make the ones which DO have god armour unkillable.

Regardless, everyone replying to the thread, including the OP is completely off topic from the shrieking suggestion, myself included with the first part of this post.

 

[Black_heart]

You have to work for mcmmo, not vampirism, but that's off topic, so I won't say any more.


Not every vampire has god armour, but what people are saying is that changes like this make the ones which DO have god armour unkillable.

Regardless, everyone replying to the thread, including the OP is completely off topic from the shrieking suggestion, myself included with the first part of this post.

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Ok i understand the god armor part now thks

 

[FCCarnilord]

Guys, at this point, this is not a thread about vampire shrieks. I suggest we keep the shriek, but add like 1 or 2 more, like /v shriek 1 or /v shriek 2 so there are like 3 sounds they make, besides the one of the ghast shooting a fireball