Archived Prepare Massiverestore For The Faction Map Consolidation

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Eucindiel

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The Problem

Remember Daendroc? Visitors to Daendroc spawned facing South and, more often than not would simply run in that direction. It stood to reason then that the very instant that "Wilderness" appeared on your screen you were all of the sudden surrounded by a wasteland, a decimated landscape of nerd poles, gaping holes and worse.

These were the days BEFORE MassiveRestore.

Arvallon and I spent many months restoring (by hand) that desolate scrap heap South of Daenshore... but it was a lost cause. No sooner had we finished than some punk would come along and dig everything up in an effort to grind McMMO levels (or just to piss us off).

Take a look at Hyarroc. Now that MassiveRestore waits for 6 months it is happening again.

And with all factions now facing living together in the same three maps it will get worse.

The Solution

MassiveRestore operates at 2 week intervals in the chunks closest to spawn and then slows down as it moves further away from spawn. Simples.
 
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Alternatively I think it is technically under World Staff Jurisdiction to handle Manual Restoration. It could before a monthly/bi-monthly thing where World staff fly over areas that commonly face depopulation issues and give it a quick lick of paint so to speak. It wouldn't be majorly difficult either, as there are schematic sets for trees, so even re-foresting them manually would be easy. Or alternatively just, you know, the massive restore commands for larger areas, used manually in those hot spots.

Because the idea your suggesting requires extra code work which I doubt will be done because priorities.
 
Alternatively I think it is technically under World Staff Jurisdiction to handle Manual Restoration. It could before a monthly/bi-monthly thing where World staff fly over areas that commonly face depopulation issues and give it a quick lick of paint so to speak. It wouldn't be majorly difficult either, as there are schematic sets for trees, so even re-foresting them manually would be easy. Or alternatively just, you know, the massive restore commands for larger areas, used manually in those hot spots.

Because the idea your suggesting requires extra code work which I doubt will be done because priorities.

From memory of the dark old days (been here since 2012) I seem to recall that's the way they were doing it before the days of MassiveRestore... and... it failed as it was too much work and sporadic.

Also ask yourself at what point would the time spent carrying out "Manual Restores" equate to the same amount of time required to code the change? Answer: around about the time you kick yourself for not doing the old "short term loss, long term gain" thingo.
 
From memory of the dark old days (been here since 2012) I seem to recall that's the way they were doing it before the days of MassiveRestore... and... it failed as it was too much work and sporadic.

Also ask yourself at what point would the time spent carrying out "Manual Restores" equate to the same amount of time required to code the change? Answer: around about the time you kick yourself for not doing the old "short term loss, long term gain" thingo.
Have you had problems requesting manual restores to the areas you've mentioned at the moment or are you anticipating that staff will have difficulty coping with all the requests in the new world.

I would like to point out that griefing seems to be prevalent in jungle biomes, which make sense due to how hard they are to navigate and such. Jungles are akknowledged to be poorly suited to faction worlds and as such are being avoided.

I do agree with you that both players and staff need to keep an eye out. Players to request manual restorations if necessary and staff to make a plugin if the restorations get out of hand.
 
Yeah... Nah...

I'm just going off my own previous experience that (in a volunteer driven ecosystem) manual restore is a great intention but in practice it gets ignored or is too labour intensive.

The admins will either agree with me based on their own experience of having run this thing since it was mcteam.org back in 2011 and go "oh yeah he's got a point" or not... I'm not going to get lost in a tightly knotted ball of anguish either way. If it happens, I was right, if not, I stand corrected - first world problems and all that.
 
However, I do think having massive restore do it's thing more often the closer you are to spawn is not a bad idea. Maybe we could focus on that aspect as manual restore just isn't going to work.
 
instead of having MR every 6month, maybe have it every month or 2. that way its often but not too often. and now with only 3 world factions will be stuck together and if restore is twice a year it will look like some cheap FAction, anarachy server, which massive advertises as not
 
Restore is something we want to refine, however, a shorter restore period means players can't build things like roads between themselves and others, but a longer one means resources become more scarce and we have to do more manual restores once in a while.
 
Restore is something we want to refine, however, a shorter restore period means players can't build things like roads between themselves and others, but a longer one means resources become more scarce and we have to do more manual restores once in a while.
Restore is fairly new and simple, it just needs tweakin
 
Personally I'd prefer every 5.482648391747929471695029475869692771616485938472847195927164950184749193747289249716859716959275963592749592747919 months
actually if we made it ever
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56959688159205600101655256375679 month,
it would be called PI restore @Viscar
 
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