Oliverbear's Oligarch Plans..

1oliverbear

1oliverbear

A person from 'Murica
Joined
Jul 2, 2012
Messages
89
Reaction score
52
Points
0
Location
Oregon
"HAIL fellow citizens of Regalia, my name is Oliver Flåmus Obdrogen and id like to be your Oligarch for the poor distract."



MY PLANS:


-Id like to be able to clean up the poor distract first hand.. soo people can live in the poor distract without fear of being mugged/robbed or attacked, and not just this distract but all of Regalia id like to clean up and withdraw fear of being mugged/robbed or attacked.

-Since, i'm after all a priest id like to make it soo all relgions and orders throughout the continents
can have have a safehaven present in Regalia. Id also like to make a selective order of citizens and guards to protect regalia's streets.

-I know there has been some talk about vampies.. but vampies are also people too and should be treated equal like the rest of us. But id also like to put guards around the distracts to protect against rouge vampires and protect the street's of Regalia from all crime affairs..


-And finally id like to add lumber mills to Regalia so we may increase wood supplies and public use farms to the outside of Regalia for all it's citizens to use.. Id also like to share my ideas to the other Oligarch's and let them share there ideas to me.. so we can create a peaceful and perfect society. Id also like to be able to allow citizens of Regalia their input, and how they see Regalia fit so Oligarchs truly know what to do in Regalia.. :)
 
Favoured wrinkles his nose in disgust as he sees yet another person supporting vampires. He walks up to oliver and snarls. "It seems you people are determined to live out the old fable of a man saving a poisonous snake from death, then being bit by the snake he had just saved. You may think these 'vampires' are fluffy and nice, but they'll sink their teeth into you the second you let your guard down!
 
Vampires are considered demons in my eyes, and should be exterminated, not treated as equals by humanity. Down with the heretic!
 
Zainia said:
I agree with Oliver. Vampires should be treated based on their actions, not their birth.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
That is a foolish statement. Most vampires these days take in the dark disease by choice, and they are most definitely not born with it. Most people like you seem to always forget that vampires are diseased, not a race. I don't know how many times I will have to repeat that. In my eyes, the only 'good' vampires are the ones actively seeking a cure. The community of Regalia is very open to vampires who have confessed their wrongs, and wish to purify themselves. However any others, I will not, nor will Regalia, tolerate their presence.
 
Zainia said:
Well what if two vampire's have a child, or are too poor to buy a cure?
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Vampires cannot breed, it is hard printed into most vampirian lore, unless you watch that movie.[DOUBLEPOST=1361906039][/DOUBLEPOST]Zeaphyr growls at Olivers Oligarch "plan", snarling as he speaks.
"A vampire is NOT a person. It is a soulless, heartless, foul wretched beast-- sacrificing its soul and a large part of its humanity to attain DARK powers. A would be demon, if they we're born as such. But, no. They are humans choosing to walk the path of darkness and disease in exchange for demonic, unnatural powers. If not stopped and put to death, they will one day over-run Reglia and destroy life as we know and cherish it. I recommend you change your policy, lest you wish for more sensible peoples to think you a fool, and convince others against supporting you."
 
Rozzelyn walks near this gathering of ppl, just hearing of old Oli's plans of Oligarch.
He hears Jared's remarks on vampirism and quickly spins the man around and decks him.
"You shall not stereotype my race ignorant fool! As for him being Valyrian, at least he has given up the war before Grixer was hung! A man is made by his actions, not his origins!"
 
Tallon looks at his old friend, yet constant rival on this issue, Rozzelyn. "How many times do we have to say it... You aren't a race! I am a Yanar, that is a race. Can I cure myself of being a Yanar? You are a human, your vampirism is a disease, albeit a useful one. You can't cure a race." Walking closer to Rozzelyn, he whispers, "This is not the place to make your vampirism common knowledge. I've learned to tolerate it, just for you, but most of the others here won't."

Tallon strides towards Oliver and the others. "I have recently met this man, Oliver. While it is without a doubt that he has questionable origins, he is a man of good intentions. I disagree with his views on vampires, and if you are one, Oliver, I would strongly recommend curing one. The Regalians won't take kindly to a vampire watching their streets. However his other plans are pure in intent, and we should give them reasonable consideration."
 
Guys guys you misunderstand i don't like vampires nor do i hate them.. im simple neutral to them.. but i do have some friends who are vampires as do i respect them.. >.<
 
Rainbow, and all other vampires, stop ignoring the question! If you are good, cure yourself! If you aren't... Continue as such.
 
Golemlord said:
Rainbow, and all other vampires, stop ignoring the question! If you are good, cure yourself! If you aren't... Continue as such.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Some might not know how to cure them selves.. i once was affected by this.. and i didn't know how to cure myself for a while..[DOUBLEPOST=1361926630][/DOUBLEPOST]
Jared4242 said:
As for your policy on vampires, it is born of pure ignorance. Vampires gain there powers by choice; they gain power the easy way, and have no repercussions on the innocents they feed off of! Your foolish words will not sway the church, nor the military. Best ye drag your tongue back into yer mouth, and stop this non-sense.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...


First how.. dare you have no right to say of someone's choice of life.... and to some people they believe that a Vampire is a race.. so you have no right to acuse them of there belief.. it's just like us Elves to be sickened of another race or belief other then ye' own.. :@
 
KSTRandom said:
Vampires cannot breed, it is hard printed into most vampirian lore, unless you watch that movie.[DOUBLEPOST=1361906039][/DOUBLEPOST]Zeaphyr growls at Olivers Oligarch "plan", snarling as he speaks.
"A vampire is NOT a person. It is a soulless, heartless, foul wretched beast-- sacrificing its soul and a large part of its humanity to attain DARK powers. A would be demon, if they we're born as such. But, no. They are humans choosing to walk the path of darkness and disease in exchange for demonic, unnatural powers. If not stopped and put to death, they will one day over-run Reglia and destroy life as we know and cherish it. I recommend you change your policy, lest you wish for more sensible peoples to think you a fool, and convince others against supporting you."
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
We write our own lore. Even with only one vampire, the baby is born infected.
 
Artilles said:
Vampires are considered demons in my eyes, and should be exterminated, not treated as equals by humanity. Down with the heretic!
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
You say vampires should be hunted down.. soo bascily your saying you want to hunt down Rozzelyn and Flazhfire.. one of your own friends dear to your very soul >.<
 
Vampires cannot breed fools! There is a reason no child came out of the Baver marriage! Vampires have no blood except for the blood in their stomachs! What pumps through their veins is a dark, black ooze. After my years of vampire hunting, I know there is a reason that elf calls their hearts black.
 
Waminer said:
Vampires cannot breed fools! There is a reason no child came out of the Baver marriage! Vampires have no blood except for the blood in their stomachs! What pumps through their veins is a dark, black ooze. After my years of vampire hunting, I know there is a reason that elf calls their hearts black.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Some vampires do have hearts you fool.. like for example Boom77777 (Ash) or Rozzelyn.. and vampires may breed they make their own lore of life.. the same way the rest of us do..
 
Vampires are people too. They have human feelings. For example, I once loved one. Until... Never mind that! They should be treated like humans! All races should be treated like humans! Justice Now!
 
Eyebrows J. said:
We write our own lore. Even with only one vampire, the baby is born infected.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
I understand that you write your own lore for your character, but a vampire is STILL a vampire. There are definitive rules that make a vampire a vampire, a human a human, and so on and so fourth. Without said rules, you could be a pink and purple elephant cascading as a "human", and I'd have to believe you because there are no rules in place telling me that it is false. An infected person could have a child, I suppose, but vampires, as stated below, lack blood pumping through their veins, and are undead creatures of the night. As such, only parts of their body function as they would when they were alive-- namely their stomachs and brains and their limbs. A vampire would be unable to have a child, as they have no physical need to. To make another vampire, they just have to bite another human in a certain way. Thus, reproduction to a vampire scientifically is not the same as it is to a human, and they cannot mate because they need not mate. That part of their body has no purpose to function, and I imagine it is also part of the vampiric curse/disease, they cannot impregnate.[DOUBLEPOST=1361936859][/DOUBLEPOST]
1oliverbear said:
Some vampires do have hearts you fool.. like for example Boom77777 (Ash) or Rozzelyn.. and vampires may breed they make their own lore of life.. the same way the rest of us do..
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
You, especially, are the one coming off as foolish. Nobody said they lack the ORGAN the heart. They just dont pump BLOOD. they feed on it.. It nourishes them. that is how a vampire operates. Now, If you talk about the ambiguous term "heart", which refers to personality, emotion, conscience, soul, that sort of thing.. Whether they have it or not is up to the vampire in question.
 
KSTRandom said:
I understand that you write your own lore for your character, but a vampire is STILL a vampire. There are definitive rules that make a vampire a vampire, a human a human, and so on and so fourth. Without said rules, you could be a pink and purple elephant cascading as a "human", and I'd have to believe you because there are no rules in place telling me that it is false. An infected person could have a child, I suppose, but vampires, as stated below, lack blood pumping through their veins, and are undead creatures of the night. As such, only parts of their body function as they would when they were alive-- namely their stomachs and brains and their limbs. A vampire would be unable to have a child, as they have no physical need to. To make another vampire, they just have to bite another human in a certain way. Thus, reproduction to a vampire scientifically is not the same as it is to a human, and they cannot mate because they need not mate. That part of their body has no purpose to function, and I imagine it is also part of the vampiric curse/disease, they cannot impregnate.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
I'm saying we do not need to take the stories of vampires written in real life history. We will make our own vampires as we have already. The real story of a vampire is this one king that abducted people, beheaded them, and put their heads on spikes. He drained all their blood through holes in their neck. The author of Dracula made this into a story and wrote a novel. Our vampires are not Dracula, our vampires are diseased people who now feed on blood and cannot stand sunlight. They've been forced to live in sewers and are being very much overpowered now. They are still human, they are simply diseased. So of course they can breed.
 
Zainia said:
Vampires are people too. They have human feelings. For example, I once loved one. Until... Never mind that! They should be treated like humans! All races should be treated like humans! Justice Now!
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Vampires arent a race! they are a populous, not a people! They are humans walking a path of darkness out of willing/unwilling transformation from infection or soul sacrificing- to attain dark powers. They arent just glorified humans, they are creatures of the night-- and FOR A REASON. They typically loose their concience and become hungry and lustful beasts who rape and pillage, which is one of the reasons everybody hates them and hunts them. It isnt without reason that the good people of Regalia want vampires to be unallowed to inhabit the holy city.[DOUBLEPOST=1361937573][/DOUBLEPOST]
Eyebrows J. said:
I'm saying we do not need to take the stories of vampires written in real life history. We will make our own vampires as we have already. The real story of a vampire is this one king that abducted people, beheaded them, and put their heads on spikes. He drained all their blood through holes in their neck. The author of Dracula made this into a story and wrote a novel. Our vampires are not Dracula, our vampires are diseased people who now feed on blood and cannot stand sunlight. They've been forced to live in sewers and are being very much overpowered now. They are still human, they are simply diseased. So of course they can breed.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
But thats so pointless, as well as contradictory and LAZY. It makes it sound like vampires are just players who wish to be essentially human, but want all the "awesome" power of vampirisim, so they wish to be a vampire without consiquence, and without the loss of the ability to do the things that make life meaningful to humans.
 
KSTRandom said:
Vampires arent a race! they are a populous, not a people! They are humans walking a path of darkness out of willing/unwilling transformation from infection or soul sacrificing- to attain dark powers. They arent just glorified humans, they are creatures of the night-- and FOR A REASON. They typically loose their concience and become hungry and lustful beasts who rape and pillage, which is one of the reasons everybody hates them and hunts them. It isnt without reason that the good people of Regalia want vampires to be unallowed to inhabit the holy city.[DOUBLEPOST=1361937573][/DOUBLEPOST]
But thats so pointless, as well as contradictory and LAZY. It makes it sound like vampires are just players who wish to be essentially human, but want all the "awesome" power of vampirisim, so they wish to be a vampire without consiquence, and without the loss of the ability to do the things that make life meaningful to humans.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
How is it lazy? You took the lore from someone else!
 
Eyebrows J. said:
How is it lazy? You took the lore from someone else!
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
I took rules about vampirism from a collective of people which most established fiction writers accept as, essentially, the ideals behind vampirisism and most vampires follow these rules. To bend these rules because it inconveniences what you wish to be to the point of abolishing them from the mind is LAZY. Instead of working around problems that you have with being a vampire, you bog them down to being zombies with reason and feelings. Why do I say that? Because a zombie is just a dead, reason-less human that occurs because of a virus of unknown or magical origin. A vampire, by most standards, differentiate themselves by being a creature of darkness that maliciously seeks out food, knowing full well what they do. A zombie mindlessly seeks it out, operating on instinct. A vampire chooses to lose its soul, chooses to have its soul stay lost, chooses to walk this path. Dont argue that "some people are turned unwillingly." THERE IS A CURE. Dont argue that "the cure is expensive" as, if you truly wish to seek it out, you can find the materials. You could even ask for help. A vampire that consciously chooses to be a vampire is an evil creature. Zombies dont choose to be zombies, and cannot be cured. You act as though you are a zombie with a brain and conscience, not a vampire. You act as though thats all massive craft vampires are. However, obviously many others disagree with you, as I've been seeing conflicting arguments since the topic of vampires has been brought up, by any one on the forums for my eyes to see. It would seem players who play as a "good vampire" wish to be humans with epic powers and no consequence, nothing more. their reasons are not for "unique" vampire lore (which is starting to resemble the works of stephenie meyer, as more "vampires" put out their opinions on vampires.). That is how it is lazy.
 
KSTRandom said:
I took rules about vampirism from a collective of people which most established fiction writers accept as, essentially, the ideals behind vampirisism and most vampires follow these rules. To bend these rules because it inconveniences what you wish to be to the point of abolishing them from the mind is LAZY. Instead of working around problems that you have with being a vampire, you bog them down to being zombies with reason and feelings. Why do I say that? Because a zombie is just a dead, reason-less human that occurs because of a virus of unknown or magical origin. A vampire, by most standards, differentiate themselves by being a creature of darkness that maliciously seeks out food, knowing full well what they do. A zombie mindlessly seeks it out, operating on instinct. A vampire chooses to lose its soul, chooses to have its soul stay lost, chooses to walk this path. Dont argue that "some people are turned unwillingly." THERE IS A CURE. Dont argue that "the cure is expensive" as, if you truly wish to seek it out, you can find the materials. You could even ask for help. A vampire that consciously chooses to be a vampire is an evil creature. Zombies dont choose to be zombies, and cannot be cured. You act as though you are a zombie with a brain and conscience, not a vampire. You act as though thats all massive craft vampires are. However, obviously many others disagree with you, as I've been seeing conflicting arguments since the topic of vampires has been brought up, by any one on the forums for my eyes to see. It would seem players who play as a "good vampire" wish to be humans with epic powers and no consequence, nothing more. their reasons are not for "unique" vampire lore (which is starting to resemble the works of stephenie meyer, as more "vampires" put out their opinions on vampires.). That is how it is lazy.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
First: We are not a Twilight fan club and therefor do not have "sparkling fairy princesses". We are our own vampire that Cayorion (and I'm sure some others) reinvented. He made his own vampire based off others but not so much that they are exactly the same. But he also wrote the lore (well, Ninjabaver did). This lore has not been handed out to us but it is written and you can't change it. The lore, I'm sure, says it is a disease, not that they are separate people. If they were separate people, I'm sure they wouldn't be able to breed. But, like I said, they are human and thus, can. On to 'unwilling vampire infections'. If you are raised that vampires are 'good' your will believe being a vampire is 'good'. My own character is an example of this. Do you want the full lore? I am very willing to write it all out for you.
 
Eyebrows J. said:
First: We are not a Twilight fan club and therefor do not have "sparkling fairy princesses". We are our own vampire that Cayorion (and I'm sure some others) reinvented. He made his own vampire based off others but not so much that they are exactly the same. But he also wrote the lore (well, Ninjabaver did). This lore has not been handed out to us but it is written and you can't change it. The lore, I'm sure, says it is a disease, not that they are separate people. If they were separate people, I'm sure they wouldn't be able to breed. But, like I said, they are human and thus, can. On to 'unwilling vampire infections'. If you are raised that vampires are 'good' your will believe being a vampire is 'good'. My own character is an example of this. Do you want the full lore? I am very willing to write it all out for you.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
There is a time and place for this discussion, it is not here, and though it would be good to do such a thing now.. regardless, without such a place, we shan't. I shall only say these things about the issues here. Yes, vampirisism is something you can CONTRACT. It is a DISEASE. But the product of the disease is much a like that of the zombie disease, to use said parallel again. Zombies and humans are very different creatures, as are vampires and humans. It is a disease that essentially takes the life and soul of a person, and as a disease does, affects multiple parts of the body and as a disease does, causes certain things to work improperly. Also, the "Dark Disease" infected human would be most alike a human. A vampire is different from said dark diseased human. A full vampire is not just a diseased human, but a undead product of the disease. That is not a reinvented concept. And, no, Agnis can breed. Yanars can breed. Orcs can breed. THEY are a seperate people. Vampires are an undead demon spawn populous that were created because of someone (the origin vampire)'s greed and thirst for power. They are humans affected by disease and are unable to breed. If not because they cant, then because they SHOULDNT. I imagine even if they could breed, it'd be like an AIDs or Herpes kind of thing. The lore, or atleast what I could find posted of it, did specify that "The dark disease is not to be confused with Vampirism. The dark disease will make you sicker and sicker until you finally turn into a vampire. To contract the disease you can use an altar of darkness. You also risk infection if you accept a blood offer from a vampire or engage in close-combat with one." and that "Ancient powers of true light and darkness have awoken. Through the use of altars these powers tap into our dimension, in recent times the darkness has gained a stronger connection. It spreads as an infectious disease that only the altars of light and holy water can cure. Those who embrace the dark disease are granted the powerful curse of Vampirism."It supports what I have been saying. Vampries are not JUST infected people. They are CURSED and said CURSE brings with it the aforementioned consequences I spoke of. If you wish to continue our discussion, feel free to PM me, or something of the sort, but I shan't take up this.. misguided mans forum page any longer with my opinions.
 
Jared4242 said:
-his hands shoot to his scimitar hilts, but he takes the punch from Rozzelyn in stride-

I expect as much... Still, ye refuse to accept that this curse corrupts the soul. I will admit not all vampires in this world are fully evil, but nor can I say they are not a problem. Humans new to this land become vampires just for the easy taste of power. In my opinion, it is worth killing them, if a causality or two of "humble" vampires is committed.

-glares at Rozzelyn, his bluster returning in full stride-

I can accept that ye are not of evil heart, but I'll not hear that of Oliver! The traitor switched sides again when Coalition made a tiny (and it was tiny) bit of progress. If Imperial had continued on, he would have stayed with them. Just because he stopped doing his crimes, does not mean he is any less guilty! Oliver is among the many illiterate fools that make up the majority of the vampire community. If forcing some of the more "humble" vampires to have some manner of wit to not be destroyed, it is a worthy price to pay to purge this filth from having power.

-wipes a hand across his mouth, grinning as he notices the blood now on his hand- I'll give you that, vampire... Ye can hit like a bloody ogre on black lotus!
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Jared im getting soo tired of how cool you think you are and how you think its cool to RP at EVERYTHING! AND you have no idea of what really happened at Coalition so stop thinking your always right at EVERYTHING! Also i'm not a vampire.. >.< and some of your dearest friends are vampires fool..
 
Rozzelyn drops his fist
" A soul has not been proven to exist yet, so therefore you cannot make an arguement of a soul being corrupted."
"I will give you the fact that many men find out about us and become one of us without the will to be civil. The best way to deal with this is education though. If men are told ways to be civil and respectable, maybe less wars would happen. This need to be doneto all immigrants and newborns in formal education."
 
Rozzelyn said:
Rozzelyn drops his fist
" A soul has not been proven to exist yet, so therefore you cannot make an arguement of a soul being corrupted."
"I will give you the fact that many men find out about us and become one of us without the will to be civil. The best way to deal with this is education though. If men are told ways to be civil and respectable, maybe less wars would happen. This need to be doneto all immigrants and newborns in formal education."
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Zeaphyr, clothes charred and armor cracked, stumbles into the scene again.
"After the vampiric rebellion and siege shortly after, I don't think anybody in Regalia will be supporting these vampiric scum.."
He haphazardly raises his blade, pointing it at the closest vampire to him.
"I say we kill the lot of them on the spot!"[DOUBLEPOST=1362027298][/DOUBLEPOST]
1oliverbear said:
Jared im getting soo tired of how cool you think you are and how you think its cool to RP at EVERYTHING! AND you have no idea of what really happened at Coalition so stop thinking your always right at EVERYTHING! Also i'm not a vampire.. >.< and some of your dearest friends are vampires fool..
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Most everybody tries to rp to everything that cares about rp, Oliver. And, who's to say he doesnt? I mean, you weren't the only one involved, its likely he learned from someone close to him. (also, its right ABOUT everything. Grammar, please use it.)
 
KSTRandom said:
Zeaphyr, clothes charred and armor cracked, stumbles into the scene again.
"After the vampiric rebellion and siege shortly after, I don't think anybody in Regalia will be supporting these vampiric scum.."
He haphazardly raises his blade, pointing it at the closest vampire to him.
"I say we kill the lot of them on the spot!"[DOUBLEPOST=1362027298][/DOUBLEPOST]
Most everybody tries to rp to everything that cares about rp, Oliver. And, who's to say he doesnt? I mean, you weren't the only one involved, its likely he learned from someone close to him. (also, its right ABOUT everything. Grammar, please use it.)
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
First not everyone is good with grammar soo yay... and second be quiet..
 
KSTRandom said:
Dont get mad at me because you lack a legitamate argument to back you up, and don't try to silence me-- you shall fail.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
KSTR.. some people do have problems with vocabulary and such so shush it.. and if you dont like my Oligarch plans i get it already you dont have to go on and on and on.. just drop it and move on..
 
1oliverbear said:
KSTR.. some people do have problems with vocabulary and such so shush it.. and if you dont like my Oligarch plans i get it already you dont have to go on and on and on.. just drop it and move on..
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
No. First, "KSTR.. some people do have problems with vocabulary and such so shush it.." has nothing to do with what I said. You are avoiding replying to me because you lack an argument. Second, I can stay and participate in conversation here as much as I like, you cannot tell me otherwise. If I see something worthy of talking about, then I will.
 
I would like to recommend this site for the next time you're making a formal announcement of any kind. I'll not vote for you purely because of this, as I don't even remember what you stand for.
Spell Check | Online Spellchecker
It also has a built in grammar checker, which this announcement needed.

And I don't want to hear "I'm bad at spelling/grammar" because that's obvious, hence why I gave you the tool to fix it. Nor would I want to hear "English isn't my first language", for the same reason.
In normal every day postings, fine, these are acceptable, but when making an announcement trying to explain why you should be elected for a high ranking position, you put more effort into these things or you won't be taken seriously.

Also, considering the nature of the position you're applying for, why would you belittle someone for RPing? It'll be your job to RP almost at all times should you somehow be elected. That hypocrisy or lack of desire to do the very thing you want to be elected for is yet another reason for you to not be elected, without even knowing your plans.
 

Similar threads

H
Work in Progress Ithissi, the Knight of Retribution
Replies
0
Views
95
Character Sheets
HoLee_Of_Ducks
H
MonMarty
Story Progression: The Council Of Helsikki
Replies
6
Views
1K
Progression Events
SevenBirds
SevenBirds
CanniBard
Played Character Bram Severijn | The Reckless Apostate
Replies
6
Views
1K
Character Sheets
CanniBard
CanniBard
canaaa
Played Character Amadea Harmonia Temple
Replies
2
Views
739
Character Sheets
canaaa
canaaa
Apictos
Played Character Otto Delmotte
Replies
1
Views
639
Character Sheets
Apictos
Apictos
Top Bottom