You missed my entire point. You dont even care about Massive, why even come to point out that PVP isnt what it used to be? I mean who the hell even cares? I'm trying to calm some people down from trying to believe the world is ending and you come up in here, tearing it up because you cant have your precious pvp back to have it was. Just go away already its clear you dont care about massive and you wont return so just leave.Discuss what? Something that's not even happening to Massive as was pointed out by the third or fourth post?