Archived Merging Factions

[Mecharic]

Now, I know that Cayorion is busy with sharding, but once hes done that he's making Factions 2.0. So my thought is this: in the 2.0 make it possible to merge factions if both leaders and all officers agree. IDK how this would work, I can't code to save my life (not entirely true, but yea), however if it is possible, I would try to make it happen.

The In-Game method of merging would be as follows: You have a faction called Example1 and you want to merge with Example2. Your faction has 1 leader (you) and an officer. Both you and the officer need to use /f merge Example2. Example2 has a leader and 4 officers. The leader and all 4 officers need to use /f merge Example1. The factions name becomes whatever the larger faction in members was, and it costs 200 silver (same as making a new faction). The faction banks are merged into one bank, as is everything else. No land is lost and no players get left behind. The larger faction (member wise) becomes the 'leader' in that its leader become the new leader. All officers remain officers, and the leader that steps down becomes and officer.

Role-Play wise, IRL nations can merge on occasion (from 13 colonies into 1 United States as an example ).

Gameplay wise, it would allow for different factions to merge without losing their bases.

I just wanted to suggest this idea for when Factions 2.0 comes out, since I've always wanted to be able to merge factions instead of buy them

 

[Tubbytundra]

That is a good idea, but instead of the faction with more members getting priority, how about the one with more money

 

[Imboring56]

I think this would be useless since I heard Cayorion was working on creating an /f empire thing - Basically merges your factions for you. I'm not sure where I heard that from ,but I could possibly be a rumor.

 

[Tubbytundra]

I think he means make two factions turn into ONE faction, that is ruled by a leader, not an empire

 

[Overlordqwerty]

what about the faction leader of one faction has to offer to merge ,/f merge (name of faction you want to merge with), and the faction leader of the other has to accept, /f acceptmerge (name of faction that offered). The new faction would have the same name,leader and home of the faction that accepted not the one that offered.[DOUBLEPOST=1358733524][/DOUBLEPOST]also i dont think it should cost money as both factions have already been paid for.[DOUBLEPOST=1358733750][/DOUBLEPOST]and enemies of either faction should be enemies of the new faction

 

[Hydralisk1994]

I think that you should get your money back. It is like paying three times the amount for one faction. Getting your money back would mean you payed normal. Also, it should be /f offermerge (name) which asks the other faction to merge with you, and /f askmerge (name) which asks if you can merge into them.

 

[Overlordqwerty]

so should the faction leader of the faction that is merged and looses its name and home get 200s?
also ask and offer should be the other way around. because you would ask another faction to merge with you and offer to merge with another faction. The faction that will become the leader is not offering anything they are asking.

 

[TaxConsumption]

OR ExampleII disbands and all of those members join ExampleI, and ExampleI claims ExampleII's old stuff.

 

[favoured]

One problem with that, one faction needs to have all its members online at once

 

[TaxConsumption]

One problem with that, one faction needs to have all its members online at once

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I've done it to 40+ members before. Pretty sure you freshmeats can do it.

 

[Mecharic]

The reason for it costing 200 silver is because you are, technically, making a new faction out of two older ones. It is also to keep this from becoming commonplace, it is for people who actually want to put the effort into maintaining multiple bases and centers of activity.

The power, landclaim, members, money, and officers all merge together. The Perms, Leader, and Name are of the larger faction or of the accepting faction (depending on which idea the admins like better, I like them both). If one faction was enemied to an ally of the other faction, the allied/enemied faction becomes neutral.

 

[Hydralisk1994]

The reason for it costing 200 silver is because you are, technically, making a new faction out of two older ones. It is also to keep this from becoming commonplace, it is for people who actually want to put the effort into maintaining multiple bases and centers of activity.

The power, landclaim, members, money, and officers all merge together. The Perms, Leader, and Name are of the larger faction or of the accepting faction (depending on which idea the admins like better, I like them both). If one faction was enemied to an ally of the other faction, the allied/enemied faction becomes neutral.

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You are making 1 out of 2. It is like disbanding both (get money back) make another (pay 200s) so you have 200 left over.

One problem with that, one faction needs to have all its members online at once

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Why? The leaders can decide to merge on their own. And all members will be transferred.

so should the faction leader of the faction that is merged and looses its name and home get 200s?
also ask and offer should be the other way around. because you would ask another faction to merge with you and offer to merge with another faction. The faction that will become the leader is not offering anything they are asking.

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No because you are offering them the ability to merge with you. And you are asking if you can merge with them.

 

[Mecharic]

You are making 1 out of 2. It is like disbanding both (get money back) make another (pay 200s) so you have 200 left over.


Why? The leaders can decide to merge on their own. And all members will be transferred.


No because you are offering them the ability to merge with you. And you are asking if you can merge with them.

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Yes, but you don't get money back when you disband a faction. You lose the money you put into it and need to pay 200s for the new faction. And there is no way you should be PAID to merge your faction.

 

[EyebrowsJ]

Well... with multiple leaders and custom rankings, both leaders could remain leaders.

 

[Hydralisk1994]

Yes, but you don't get money back when you disband a faction. You lose the money you put into it and need to pay 200s for the new faction. And there is no way you should be PAID to merge your faction.

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I thought that if your faction got disbanded for say inactivity the leader got their money back. And you're not getting paid, you are getting refunded. And you'll end up with one faction, so i don't see why you need to pay the same amount as buying three factions.

 

[Jomdorr]

i dislike the idea i like be be the sole leader

 

[Imboring56]

I think it should be reduced to 100 silver. Since both factions can just disband, one person would start a new one for 200, and this idea is basically fufilled. It should be reduced because of the easy get-around.

 

[Hydralisk1994]

I say 10 silver because all it is is transferring owner ship and what faction players are in.

 

[Mecharic]

I thought that if your faction got disbanded for say inactivity the leader got their money back. And you're not getting paid, you are getting refunded. And you'll end up with one faction, so i don't see why you need to pay the same amount as buying three factions.

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You need to pay for the same reason you need to pay for a faction. Yes, two factions are becoming one, but the NEW faction is NEW. Anyway, that is how I envision it, and I see no reason to make doubling or tripling a faction size free. A major influence for the price is that when making anew faction or disbanding one faction, you lose all the bases of the old faction. This preserves them.

 

[Hydralisk1994]

But then again you could reclaim the land when you disband. Think of it as disbanding both then making a new one. You then claim all your old land and invite all your old members. This just saves the hastle.

 

[Mecharic]

But then again you could reclaim the land when you disband. Think of it as disbanding both then making a new one. You then claim all your old land and invite all your old members. This just saves the hastle.

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Not entirely true. If you have two factions, one on the north continent of Ellador, the other on an island to the south, how do you claim both bases? It is, I suppose, possible, but... not feasible.

 

[Hydralisk1994]

Simple. Claim the northern one and then claim a "path" to the area where the other one will be. Then unclaim all the path but the end that is on the south island. Then claim the island like you normally would.

 

[J3r3my]

Simple. Claim the northern one and then claim a "path" to the area where the other one will be. Then unclaim all the path but the end that is on the south island. Then claim the island like you normally would.

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It's quite tedious work when we talk about those amounts of chunks... Trust me. Been there, done that.

 

[Mecharic]

Don't forget about the oceans, mountains, and factions in between the two locations...