Lore Theory: Wolathar Not Only Nelfinic Link To Orcs, But Tigrans?

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Heya guys, Tra_kad here.

I think I'm gonna make some sort of record as to how fast a theory came out with new lore here, but firstly a disclaimer:

This is all speculation. I have no real idea if this is actually what lore staff has in mind with the lore. I don't write this stuff. I'm merely a guy that's seeing a rather startling amount of coincidental connection between things, and is deciding to point this out for the people of massive that may be interested in this kind of talk. If this theory turns out to be complete nonsense, so be it. If it turns out I'm more correct than even I guessed, then so be it. Only time can really tell if I'm right.

With that out of the way, let's get cracking:
If you haven't noticed already, a new Nelfinic race has been added dubbed the Wolathar. Click that name if you want their wiki page, but in summary: Aggressive Tribal Elves that can't use magic. Very cool concept, and I believe many players have already noted from the wiki that it makes a direct speculated correlation with the Orcs and the Wolathar, to quote: "Finally, their eyes are identical to those of the Orcs, with black eye whites and golden irises..."
Now... This frankly isn't much on the orc correlation, except maybe their aggression to all outsiders but it is still note worthy.

But now, get your tin foil hats on and grab an axe, because I'm about to chop some stuff up:
Do yourselves a favor and open up lore on the Wolathar and the Tigrans right now. Go ahead, I'll wait.


You done yet? Alright. Go ahead and scroll down to the Trivial part of the Tigran page, specifically to where it says: "Scholars have noted that dissected Tigrans cannot be told apart from dissected Elves. Their internals look almost identical, coupled with their strangely similar ears. Elves denounce this information as pure ridicule and racism towards them, but Human scholars often suggest more behind it."
This has been a long standing trivial thing that has been confusing and making me speculate life for a long time. Why? Why would the Tigrans have the same internal make up as the Elves? Elves can magic, Tigrans can't. Elves have a thing for large combat, Tigrans have a thing for ambushes in their favor. Elves have delicate faces whereas the Tigrans it's kinda hard to tell as, well, it's hidden behind fur.

Well. Now we have the Wolathar to look at. A subspecies of elf that has evidently existed before the Nelfinic Empire (Wolathar Wiki Intro and History). Here's some curious tidbits and differences from the Wolathar from the standard Nelfin:

1. Unusually pronounced arms with sharp nails on their hands, relatively shorter and comparative in agility to the Rashaq.
2. While not intelligent, they can be extremely clever, creating brilliant traps and ambushes with knowledge of the terrain and prefer to strike in ambush hit-and-run settings.
3. While little is known of how they trade, it is presumed that they are extremely self-sufficient and keep to themselves in what they own with no real mean for coin.
4. While they tend to shave it, they are noticeably more hairy then the common Elf. They also have horns that are evidently cause of 'Void Mutation Energy'.
5. Not only can they not use magic, but they have a strong hatred of it and relate their hatred to an event they dub the 'Wód-Hellèn.' which sadly so far we have no information on.
6. Almost completely erased from Nelfinic Imperial history, as it's seen as an embarrassment to the Nelfinic people and it's ways.
7. Tend to tattoo themselves as a form of self-adornment.

Well....
1. Tigrans are known for their claws, and can be fairly agile, although not as much as a Rashaq so far as I know.
2. Not known for intelligence, but are known for ambush settings and surprise attacks with whatever knowledge of the terrain they have.
3. When they do trade, it's pretty much solely on a bartering system: They typically see little use in actual coin.
4. Covered in fur, and it's been well speculated by multiple people (although never actually confirmed) that they were a product of Void-Mutated energy.
5. Cannot use magic, and have a strong hatred of it due to Nelfinic Imperial subjugation.
6. All traces of their past have been essentially erased from history by the Nelfinic Empire, seen as a insult to Estel and all her ways. It's also been presumed that the Tigrans have a far longer history then the Nelfinic Empire as well, but due to their past being erased this is unknown at this time.
7. Tend to wear gold earrings and bangles and what not as a form of... Self-adornment.


Take it as you will. I know there is a few major holes in the theory so far, partly due to missing information and partly due to me literally coming up with this the night the Wolathar page came out, but I will allow players to speculate about this as they will for now before I point out the holes that I can see.

Tagging people that'll be intrested in this as much as me: @krios41 @BirdieSanders_ @IndigoIvy @Julesandlucky @Winterlapis @Lazzulai @MolagBallin @HodlinG
 
4. While they tend to shave it, they are noticeably more hairy then the common Elf. They also have horns that are evidently cause of 'Void Mutation Energy'.
They have small horns growing from their skull, similar to the pattern of a crown, adorning their head (rigorous testing has pointed out these horns are not the side-effects of Void Energy, rather they are just bone growths).

If you wanna dig deep, you can try to reverse engineer and research the origins of some of the Wolather terms. I briefly tried to research Wód-Hellèn. The only thing I got was elvish "hellë" meaning sky, or German hellen as an adjective meaning hellish.

It does mention the wolather as being more hairy than other elves. My theory would be that the ancestory of all Tigran/Nelfin was some sort of hairy mammalian race. Perhaps even non-magical. Perhaps this "Wód-Hellèn" was some sort of chaotic/destructive magical event that caused a portion of this ancestral race to be inflicted with magical energy, thus also rendering them able to use magic.
 
If you wanna dig deep, you can try to reverse engineer and research the origins of some of the Wolather terms. I briefly tried to research Wód-Hellèn. The only thing I got was elvish "hellë" meaning sky, or German hellen as an adjective meaning hellish.

It does mention the wolather as being more hairy than other elves. My theory would be that the ancestory of all Tigran/Nelfin was some sort of hairy mammalian race. Perhaps even non-magical. Perhaps this "Wód-Hellèn" was some sort of chaotic/destructive magical event that caused a portion of this ancestral race to be inflicted with magical energy, thus also rendering them able to use magic.
Oh I didn't notice the 'not' part there... Thank you for correcting me!

As for Wod-Hellen, I had a few ideas but now with that, it kinda goofed up my idea of a void-invasion or mutation. My initial thought was the Cataclysm, but that occurred during the Nelfinic Empire if I remember correctly. This seems to be a older event than the Cataclysm.

As for the words themselves... 'Hellish Sky' makes me think of the time something like the Aurora Borealis happened in Aloria and all magic users got extreme headaches or something similar. Perhaps an even stronger version of that event?
 
Well while I'm thinking of it, here's the major problem with my own theory that I'm still trying to figure out:

The physical space between species. There definitely seems to be an implied connection between these Wolathar and the Orc. Now looking at the map of Aloria and where the species came from, the Orcs hail from Guldar which is to the west of Daenderoc. From there it's a relatively short hike down from Hyarroc where more of the Wolathar evidently live. In fact, they seem to live almost solely in Daenderoc and Hyarroc... But from what little I've figured from the Tigran lore and it's history, the Tigranic species seemed to have originated in the far north deserts of Ithania, which is nowhere near Daenderoc and Hyarroc, although it still is relatively close to Guldar.

Maybe the Tigrans and Elves have a connection to the Orcs that is previously unknown? I'll try to do some searching about on the wiki and see what I come up with. If anyone else has anything to contribute, please do!
 
I still think Wolathar are more related to Drovv/Meraic, given the two big physical similarities I found, the rib cage location and their horns.
 
You marked this as illuminati. Remember Aloria has the Dragonati. "It is unknown why they live so long"
 
this thread lacks a game theory joke
@krios41 do your job.

I still think Wolathar are more related to Drovv/Meraic, given the two big physical similarities I found, the rib cage location and their horns.
I've not actually thought of that. So we got 'confirmed' connection between Wolathar and orc, and now possible connection between the Tigrans on terms of mentality and some physical attributes as well as how they can't cast magic. And possible connections to the Maiar...

Maybe this isn't just a missing Nelfin Link: Maybe it's the missing link from some closely related species of the Seraph to essentially all races. I mean it does have a lot in common with a lot of races, evidently.

You marked this as illuminati. Remember Aloria has the Dragonati. "It is unknown why they live so long"
Why haven't I done a conspiracy on this yet?
 
Orc-Tigran=Wolathar?
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Tigrans and the dargon races in general have been stated in the past to be void mutated animals. Of note is that do to hybridization there is a degree of parallel anatomy between the assorted hominid races. Given that elves are seen as archaic, the closest to the Seraph, mayhaps once the tigrans were uplifted into an agile state, the internal parallels occurred as they were efficient for the shape desired. The Woathar could be one of the earlier groups of elves, closer to the Seraph directly. An ancient strain that changed, but still divided from the original ancestor. Or the inverse, and Woathar are a recent mutation relatively.

Orcs are recent manifested to their current state, yet already existed in the archaic ages of the Elven Empire. Woathar as a relatively recent manifestation could be the result of sustained mutation amid a populace, suiting their environ better. Not the result of offshoot from shared ancestors, but the propogation of the Seraph evolutionary path, toward a more suitable species.
 
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Tigrans and the dargon races in general have been stated in the past to be void mutated animals. Of note is that do to hybridization there is a degree of parallel anatomy between the assorted hominid races. Given that elves are seen as archaic, the closest to the Seraph, mayhaps once the tigrans were uplifted into an agile state, the internal parallels occurred as they were efficient for the shape desired. The Woathar could be one of the earlier groups of elves, closer to the Seraph directly. An ancient strain that changed, but still divided from the original ancestor. Or the inverse, and Woathar are a recent mutation relatively.

Orcs are recent manifested to their current state, yet already existed in the archaic ages of the Elven Empire. Woathar as a relatively recent manifestation could be the result of sustained mutation amid a populace, suiting their environ better. Not the result of offshoot from shared ancestors, but the propogation of the Seraph evolutionary path, toward a more suitable species.
Wolathar existed when meriac were a thing so more likely something like the ailor and orc relation between the two aka they're just close enough to elves to bang out horribly malformed babies, they're also probably really inbred.
 
Wolathar existed when meriac were a thing so more likely something like the ailor and orc relation between the two aka they're just close enough to elves to bang out horribly malformed babies, they're also probably really inbred.
Elves are rather ancient and genetically close to the Seraph, Woathar could be one of the original descent groups from the Seraph. The line that became Nelfin, while anoth became Human, anoth Gorr.

The actual age of elves as a collective species has been apocryphal. They could have begun genetic variation into the current group among the survivors of the Seraph. So relative recency is possible.
 
Elves are rather ancient and genetically close to the Seraph, Woathar could be one of the original descent groups from the Seraph. The line that became Nelfin, while anoth became Human, anoth Gorr.

The actual age of elves as a collective species has been apocryphal. They could have begun genetic variation into the current group among the survivors of the Seraph. So relative recency is possible.
They're implied to exist either with the seraph empire or with the already existing meriac as a lesser thing.
 
They're implied to exist either with the seraph empire or with the already existing meriac as a lesser thing.
They're probably the cousins/servants of the Seraph, but the Seraph are dead. Though Estel resembles a Seraph woman (Or their statue did)
so now they want the Elves to rule the world which I'm guessing is the closest they could get to the Seraph.

And the Yanar are there to help the Elves?
It doesn't matter it's all just a-
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I always linked wolathar and rashaq a lot more, somewhat similar agility, lots of hair, even a civilization of elves on Evokai gone missing. Personally, I have no idea, but thats my 2 cents.
 
I think that somewhere along the line, the Saivalthar came along, stole a few elven villages, retreated to their island, and experimented until an instinctual, savage, and mutated new form of elf was released into the wild out of disgust.