Vampires And You

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Alright so, Im looking at all of you, we have been over this many times, and Im certainly sure you are tired of hearing about it, as I am tired of speaking of it... *takes a deep breath* ....vampires.

Alright, lets start this off simple. What is a vampire? Well there are many different depictions of such beings; in Dracula, they are immortal beings who stalk the night, change into bats, drink blood, killing humans etc. In Anne Rice's popular "The Vampire" series (Interview with the Vampire, The Vampire Lestat, The Vampire Armand, etc) These are also immortal beings, feeding on blood of humans, killing, can fly but not turn into bats, pyro-kinetic in some cases, mind readers, etc. In *shutters* The Twilight series, they are immortal, blood suckers, sparkly, they are in fact murderers except the main characters like most vampire stories. In the Underworld Series, they are goth looking Blue eyed beings, immortal, blood sucking killers, super fast and strong, that's about it.

In Massivecraft....
Vampires are NOT immortal ,they are NOT goth/emo looking teenagers with a hard past, they are NOT all powerful beings. Now these are all things that have been cleared, and I rarely see people making these particular mistakes anymore, or at the very least as often as they used to be made.

The Topic at hand is this. "Why are vampires hated!? They can be good! You are all racist!!"
Ya, that. See heres the thing about vampires in Massivecraft. Yes the lore states that a part of them inside no matter how morally good they are, they are still vampires, and vampirism is a choice. Now I suppose you could say your character was forced to infection sure. But there is always a cure (unless lore staff approve of a character being unable to take the cure, which im sure is rare/not going to happen) But the cure is there, you cannot ignore that. People RPing as vampire are CHOOSING to RP as a person with something that is known to be illegal.
So why is it illegal? Well vampire drink human blood, yes the vampire pluggin lets you take blood from animals we all know that, however, it is stated in the lore the craving for human blood is very overwhelming, to a point where it can drive people insane. Like an addict to a drug.

"Well my RP character can fight it! I know others can too!" Yes my good friend Im sure they can. Want to know what they CANT do though? Break the lore. See the lore states that vampirism is illegal.

"I don't care what the lore says" Hahahhaahhaahahha....stop that. See the lore is the actual storyline to the server. If you are arguing with that, you are doing the equivalent to going outside and telling everyone they are wrong. Say you are playing an RPG that you are actually able to type in. You are fighting the final boss who is kidnapping villagers and turning them into robots to stop sonic the hedgehog or some shit. You try convincing him that doing that is wrong and he needs to stop. That's right, you are trying to convince a program that they need to stop what they are doing, you are telling technology to go against its coding. No, you don't do that. You don't write to J.K. Rowling and tell her to re-right her story so Voldemort wasn't such a bad guy so the story has no plot whatsoever. You don't jump up and yell "that's bullshit" when Sam Neil confirmed he wasn't going to be the main character in Jurassic Park 4. No. You dont do that. You dont tell someone how their story should be made. Not only does it ruin an RP experience, but its very offensive to the ones who write it.
*drinks soda and leaves room*
 
Actually, if I am correct... Nothing is immortal in Aloria. Including the Upyr.

Otherwise, well said, Tech. Yell at the idiocy from your tower.
 
Should arm yourself with an FAQ of comebacks and rebuttals and the like.
 
Meh, I heard the Upyr were, forget where I read it. If im wrong though, screw it. I made my point.
 
You forgot that vampirism is also the spawn of the Archdemon itself (if it still is...haven't read the lore pages in a while).
 
Film_Noir said:
You forgot that vampirism is also the spawn of the Archdemon itself (if it still is...haven't read the lore pages in a while).
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I didnt forget, im not trying to create a page explaining the lore, just my frustration towards those who try to break it. Details for yhe lore need to be in the oficial lore page not here. I know there isnt one up yet, but thats not my job.
 
ą¹–Ū£ŪœFrom what I heard, Vampyres actually die from only feeding on animals for too long, wasn't it because the animal blood is more like a sort of cover, a short-term block from bloodlust? Let alone, I certainly have heard from higher class vamps that do the job right that find feeding on animals very graceful, almost to the point of calling it 'beastiality'... Gross, but it is true. They supported only hurting humans and feeding on them, mostly because they have more blood and taste better. Also, Vampyre's lives are surrounded entirely around blood. Without it for a good moon or so, I do not remember the said time, they go into bloodlust and charge after anything they can find. Plus, some people sorta seem to not get the fact of a bite.
"Bites*"
"Lives*"
Is the Vampyre tongue covered in a venom that numbs the skin? Cause if not, lil' Bella isn't going to be smiling as much as they all say. It is gonna hurt like hell, and think of this fact as well;
A human has 5-6 liters of blood.
That's a pretty easy amount to drink in a whole day.
Now Imagine a Vampyre is hungry.
They drain a good 3 liters of blood, and you bleed out 1 more because they bit in a pretty needed vein. You now have 1 liter of blood, and are at great risk of death, or falling into a coma until your body produces enough to awaken you again. Which takes a long time.
Wouldn't at least a half of people drained suffer great effects? Brain damage? Weakened heart? Trouble staying awake? Hallucinations?
All these I already know the answer to.
Of all this, this is more of my suggestions for Vamps to take in mind.
The issue personally to me is not just that other people see vamps in the wrong way, but that vamps themselves see vamps the wrong way.
 
Thank you Tech -bows-

The two vampires I have created have both gotten scrutiny from those who do not understand that vampires aren't your buddy. "Why aren't you nicer? Don't you just have to bite and be done with it?" Sure, that's the easier way to go about things, but when you think of a - let's go with the cliche' word - "evil" being, do you think they would prefer to just be a leech? Or would they want to feel power over someone? When I think of a vampire on the lore's side of things my mind doesn't scream "Nice fluffy person that should be my friend". It screams "creature that may seem nice but really just wants to kill me." As you stated, they could choose to cure themselves, but the ones who do not know fully well what they are doing is illegal, and have their own reasoning behind it. Bottom line is, no vampire is "good". They can "seem like a good person" but are never to be labeled as the good guy.
 
Lol, I think I know what arguement in general inspired this post.

Nice work Tech :)

Edit: My sister forced me to watch Twilight with her, and while it was for the most part unbearable, there was one tidbit that is actually very easily applied to this situation.

Here goes, please don't hate me:

Vampires in Twilight are inherently evil, and have an unsatiable lust for human blood. Drinking animal blood for a vampire is the equivalent of craving a hot plate of barbeque, but instead getting a bag of BBQ potato chips. It's simply not the same.

That being said, some vampires can drink animal blood, but they are still vampires. In Twilight, when Edward and Bella first meet, Edward leaves for like a week because he wants to kill Bella so badly that it is unbearable for him.

Furthermore, in Twilight there is only one family of 'good' vampires, while the rest are savages, and powerful killers.

((Disclaimer: I hate everything else having to do with Twilight, this just happens to be one small tidbit of their lore that I think makes sense.))

((Second Disclaimer: This is not me saying it's a good idea to RP "the one good vampire out of a million", I'm just trying to portray the odds. IMO the only good RP'ing vampire is one who craves human blood, and acts like a real vampire))

Secondary Edit: Lol, some people rated me postively before I added in the Twilight stuff. Watch those ratings disappear xD
 
Mmm dem vampires. Hopefully the upcoming vampire lore will clear some of this up too. I tried to put emphasis on the fact that they're not nice cookies. In fact, I find them very stale and bitter. And full of a bloody surprise in the middle. Mmm--eugh.
 
Ryciera said:
Mmm dem vampires. Hopefully the upcoming vampire lore will clear some of this up too. I tried to put emphasis on the fact that they're not nice cookies. In fact, I find them very stale and bitter. And full of a bloody surprise in the middle. Mmm--eugh.
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B-b-but what about Faolan and Alison!!! I was already writing the theme-song you said!

-stares down at paper with Lyrics on it and wonders if he should make Faolan a vampire once the plugin affects all races.-
 
The problem with this though, is that the people who could really stand to see this post are the people who either don't have a forum account, or don't use the forums.
 
Id make this shit a book if I could be copied in a public place. But then those people probably dont know about the MassiveBooks Pluggin.
 
Silent_ruler said:
B-b-but what about Faolan and Alison!!! I was already writing the theme-song you said!

-stares down at paper with Lyrics on it and wonders if he should make Faolan a vampire once the plugin affects all races.-
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Rofl! My best vampire friend and me. You're right. They're the exceptions. With hearts of pure gold. Alison also sparkles in the sunlight.
 
Ryciera said:
Rofl! My best vampire friend and me. You're right. They're the exceptions. With hearts of pure gold. Alison also sparkles in the sunlight.
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Ah yes... a sparkle as golden as a flame in the night. Quite delicious to behold sight on such... beauty.

May I ask why Alison is actually a vampire that can... resist, a bit longer than most? At-least with Faolan, hence we met in the Prison waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay before?
 
Silent_ruler said:
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Ah yes... a sparkle as golden as a flame in the night. Quite delicious to behold sight on such... beauty.

May I ask why Alison is actually a vampire that can... resist, a bit longer than most?
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Also just because Ryci said Alison was one of the exceptions... it doesnt mean everyone has the right to be a special flaming person with a heart of gold that doesnt melt vampire thing.

Only Ryci can. >_>
 
Silent_ruler said:
Also just because Ryci said Alison was one of the exceptions... it doesnt mean everyone has the right to be a special flaming person with a heart of gold that doesnt melt vampire thing.

Only Ryci can. >_>
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Mhm. And when I say Alison is the exception I'm /totally/ being serious. :P
 
BandoftheHawk said:
You smell.
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Clearly won with that incredibly witty response.
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Vampires=not good

plain and simple. I mean...how do people think a blood sucking monster can be good if they are choosing to remain a bloodsucknig monster? HOW!?
 
What if I told you I'm making an immortal, emo, kind, vegetarian, modern clothed, sparkly, super strong, super fast, unbeatable vampire?

*Lore explodes*
 
Okay, rather than my short response earlier, I am going to be elaborate in some way.

Vampires should not act as happy-go-lucky humans who frolic and flowers and celebrate their evenings with a cup of tea. No. I've seen many times that people depict vampires as Twilight characters such as Edward Cullen, or the rest of them. As Tech said, people always depict that vampires are moody, emo kids who wear all black and wear dark makeup and hate to go out of their houses. Most of that is rumors and is false. As Ryci said, she has been writing Lore for vampirism, and from what I've heard from her, it is absolutely lovely. Furthermore, vampire rumors as such should be approved and declined within the release of said Lore. Honestly, from what I had gathered from vampire Lore, vampires should be something like The Interview With The Vampire, or anyone other CLASSIC vampire movie, in my opinion. Vampires are lined out to be evil beings, who could even obtain good qualities, but are evil by nature.

I could rant for days on how irritating it is to walk into the tavern and listen to people asking to trade blood, or shrieking as if common sense is an unknown feature to them. Boy, I know Luthien could too, I'm sure of it. Yet, the people complain for ages after they are annoying and noticeable vampires, and the Crimsons or Regalian guards come along and execute that character. I honestly do not know how hard it is to understand those common things of vampires. For example, my character Avarice has been subtly meandering around Regalia and has not got caught. Do you know why? Well, the woman isn't shrieking at the top of her lungs or doing this (I know it hurts my head too), or even this, as if she had no brain. It brings me such frustration, those things. Plus anyways, you, or a vampire itself is not going to wish to live off Vespid blood or something else, since human blood is sweet as a nectar. No, they are not going to go around eating potatoes and enjoying theirselves. Anyways, it is simple. It only takes common sense and not a learned skill. Don't go out in the sun and burn like a fool, or assault a guard with your fangs, or admit to vampirism. Like others said, "A blood sucking monster?". Tell me, HOW is a /being/ that drinks blood to survive good? Hm? Simple. I'm going to end this here because I could continue to 30 paragraphs later. Vampire Lore shall help a lot with this too. So yeah, that's my rant.
 
I always thought (in my mind) that when someone became infected, they couldn't go back. Like, it was their lifestyle now... I can't explain it correctly, but if you can understand what I mean xc
 
Shawn said:
I always thought (in my mind) that when someone became infected, they couldn't go back. Like, it was their lifestyle now... I can't explain it correctly, but if you can understand what I mean xc
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I always like to think of it as an addiction, kinda like cigarettes. Like... one can function with or without it, but without it it becomes for a good while, all engrossing. You have to drink blood, you have to infect yourself, you can't live without it. So it really depends on the character. The character I play is very dependent on it. She's become cured and infected at least five times, and that's the cycle for her. She keeps trying to pull herself out of it, because it negatively affects herself and those around her (though she doesn't fully understand why), but ultimately fails.

Also, BandoftheHawk smells worse than I do. I smell like sunshine and happiness.
 
Shawn said:
Yes, Yes. My exact thoughts, like an addiction... my brain just doesn't like to function ā€•(x_x)ā†’,Thank you xp Oh! Also, yes I do remember when I left Flynn's house one time, you immediately bit into Nyoka's neck for relief.
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Did she? ...Doesn't surprise me. :P
 
B-b-but, my APPROVED character is a nice vampire, who can't cure himself because he can't leave his home long enough to go find it! D:
Doesn't that just overwrite part of what you said can't happen?
 
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When I try to talk with Alison, she seems to be down in the dirt Dx
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She is Paranoid... and Alison has been through a lot. I remember when I first met her in the Prison as I saved her from execution by cheating my way through the guards and taking over her cure or death trial, then sneaking her out of the prison to take her to the smaller jail, which was a lie because Faolan even though he knew Alison would reinfect herself, attempted to persuade her in order to save her and so he took her to be temporarily cured to the Cathedral

Yes, Faolan did all that for you Ryciera
 

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