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So, writing a lot of apps recently and I noticed, the personality traits aren't terribly accurate. So, I started some notes and such and researching off of some concepts and I created this idea:

So, recently I added this into my character app after some research:
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So I came up with this idea(this is based off of the "big 5 traits"-explained here:
(applies to most lore compliant cultures
so this is what I am suggesting:

As an alternate opportunity instead of writing out six character traits, we make a chart kinda like this:
Openness to new experiences(0 being not open 10 being incredibly open):
Very disciplined to little disciplined(0 having no self control 10 being incredibly strict about everything):
Introverted to extroverted: (0 being completely introver to 10 being completely extroverted):
Disagreeable to agreeable(0 being completely self centered to 10 being a person donating their entire lives to charity:
Calm to nervous(0 being incredibly laid back to 10 being incredibly nervous):

Why would this work better possibly, you ask?
I think this would work better due to people being a lot more complex than 6 main personality traits. This could be developed in the future possibly into a chart of battling motives and morals to create even more complex ideas or just better alternatives to what we have now.

ALSO! remember there is a lot of room for detail here as there is an infinite amount of numbers between 1 and 2 and 3 and 4 and 5 and 6 and 7 and 8... well just say there is an infinite amount of numbers between 0 and ten so you can add a lot of detail
 
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I've also written a ton of apps lately, and I've had a somewhat similar idea while writing them. Everyone can relate to all traits, but grading them from 1 - 10 would be a more accurate way of rating the quality of their traits, in my opinion. So I'm all for your idea!
 
Satisarah said:
I've also written a ton of apps lately, and I've had a somewhat similar idea while writing them. Everyone can relate to all traits, but grading them from 1 - 10 would be a more accurate way of rating the quality of their traits, in my opinion. So I'm all for your idea!
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thank you, I was hoping to do similar things for strengths and weaknesses but I haven't figured out a system yet.
 
What I've been finding difficult is making a weakness section without horrifically disfiguring your character or making them mentally insane.
 
Also, notice there is a lot of room for more detail here. There is an infinite amount of numbers in between 1 and 2 so the possibilities for combinations are limitless.
 
Imma like tag someone, cuz I wud love to see this actually happen
@someone @MonMarty <- I think he duz stuf lik dis
 
This would be a fun alternative. As an avid character designer, I feel like this isn't specific enough. Traits narrow down things, quite a bit. Not everyone who is introverted is completely so. They just might be introverted around crowds but completely extroverted around a small group of friends. I think you should further expand the idea a bit.

It's fun, but might not be the level of detail it could be.
 
Kaezir said:
This would be a fun alternative. As an avid character designer, I feel like this isn't specific enough. Traits narrow down things, quite a bit. Not everyone who is introverted is completely so. They just might be introverted around crowds but completely extroverted around a small group of friends. I think you should further expand the idea a bit.

It's fun, but might not be the level of detail it could be.
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It isn't as detailed as what you describe but I feel as if it is an improvement from the "jimmeh is lovely, joyous, combative, and hypocritical" I feel as this will apply to more situations as well. this is a simplistic design created to ease the load of work for writing apps but I feel as if it better because it better describes a character than 6 simplistic traits.
 
cpt_manta_ray said:
It isn't as detailed as what you describe but I feel as if it is an improvement from the "jimmeh is lovely, joyous, combative, and hypocritical" I feel as this will apply to more situations as well. this is a simplistic design created to ease the load of work for writing apps but I feel as if it better because it better describes a character than 6 simplistic traits.
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Characters shouldn't be simple. I can understand streamlining applications, not simplifying.
 
Kaezir said:
This would be a fun alternative. As an avid character designer, I feel like this isn't specific enough. Traits narrow down things, quite a bit. Not everyone who is introverted is completely so. They just might be introverted around crowds but completely extroverted around a small group of friends. I think you should further expand the idea a bit.

It's fun, but might not be the level of detail it could be.
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The way I want "The Clay Man Project" to lay out is to make this as a simplistic version, the regular an average, and the complex a chart of battling motives and morals. After this, I plan to find some alternative for the strengths and weaknesses section because I find really difficult to write a character with actuall strengths without them being mentally insane or horribly disfigured.
 
cpt_manta_ray said:
I don't know, I just think this method describes characters better than just 6 traits.
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I definetely wouldn't say describes better, I'd say reads easier. But ultimately I'm interested to hear what a lore staff has to say about this.
 
Parz1vol said:
So then what is the point of this thread? If it's optional, then people have a choice to do it, and the Staff have no obligation to encourage/enforce it.
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Because it would be an acceptable way to write a personality on a character app. But, If staff start excepting it, people aren't forced to use it. They can use the old way if they wish
 
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Because it would be an acceptable way to write a personality on a character app. But, If staff start excepting it, people aren't forced to use it. They can use the old way if they wish
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You phrased it as if you're creating a lazy way out of writing 6 paragraphs if someone doesn't want to write them.
 
Parz1vol said:
You phrased it as if you're creating a lazy way out of writing 6 paragraphs if someone doesn't want to write them.
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but this also gives different details and information that could possibly prove to have more useful information, I am going to leave this to lore staff at this point.
 
cpt_manta_ray said:
but this also gives different details and information that could possibly prove to have more useful information, I am going to leave this to lore staff at this point.
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That still doesn't remove from the fact that it in fact does not give more information in any manner at all. It's a good form of summary if one is being lazy, but it doesn't at all provide the same detail that the 6 paragraphs can give if people actually think through the stuff.

It is a lazy way out of writing.
 
Parz1vol said:
That still doesn't remove from the fact that it in fact does not give more information in any manner at all. It's a good form of summary if one is being lazy, but it doesn't at all provide the same detail that the 6 paragraphs can give if people actually think through the stuff.

It is a lazy way out of writing.
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Namely, it doesn't explain why, whi, what, when, where, and how one is the way they are.
 
Parz1vol said:
That still doesn't remove from the fact that it in fact does not give more information in any manner at all. It's a good form of summary if one is being lazy, but it doesn't at all provide the same detail that the 6 paragraphs can give if people actually think through the stuff.

It is a lazy way out of writing.
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It gives more information if you know how to read it right. 6 traits is not a person. This describes literally every aspect of the personality.
 
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