Archived Play A Different Race For Once, Will You?!

[Theboomyfly]

Hey Roleplayers of MassiveCraft!
I have thought of this for a while already, and @Peter Harsk made the trigger to write this. Well, many players on this server roleplay, and have became good at it. But what annoys me is, everyone is talking about 'needing to expand roleplay experiences', but only a few ever do.
What I mean by this is, that players only stick to overrated Races like a few Human and a few Nelfin Races. But you barely ever see a Dwarf, Wulong, Slizar, Dakkar, Mekket, and many other races! I find this actually quite weird and stupid. Why does everyone always HAVE to be that Noble Ailor, that Slave Selling Qadir, that Perfect Elf? Come on people, we had many of these, and it won't really expand your roleplay experience in my opinion.

What I suggest is, not to stop playing a popular race, since they are also needed. BUT! To also expand your roleplay experiences by playing a less popular race as a second character. Yes, perhaps they will get discriminated, or hated, but this will give you a completely different roleplay experience than that lazy Noble Ailor that everyone adores!

What's in it for the community:

• We will have a variety of many races, instead of only Ailor, Qadir and Nelfin.
• Other races can flourish, and we can finally create successful race factions!
• Much, much more!

What's in it for me:

• You will experience roleplay on a completely different way.
• You might be able to train your roleplay skills on different levels.
  
• You can be a racistic 'jerk' to more people, since there will be more weird-looking people on the streets.
  
• Many more characters to befriend with, or even to gain as enemy.
  
• Much, much more!

Friendly greetings, Theboomyfly!

 

[Mecharic]

There would be more people with nonhuman/ailor/whatever races if those races had capitols/villages/outposts in different worlds so that Regalia (human) wasn't the sole place for safe roleplay on the server. Nobody wants to be the guy who gets shat on all the time.

Also it would help of the applications weren't like a freaking legal document -_-

 

[UnstoppableHype]

This is true. Love you Boomy. Keep spreading the word! <3

 

[Theboomyfly]

There would be more people with nonhuman/ailor/whatever races if those races had capitols/villages/outposts in different worlds so that Regalia (human) wasn't the sole place for safe roleplay on the server. Nobody wants to be the guy who gets shat on all the time.

Also it would help of the applications weren't like a freaking legal document -_-

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Well, the problem is, I think I once suggested this already. But MonMarty gave a good argument. He said something in the lines of that they didn't want to spread the roleplay. Because there aren't too many roleplayers, and if you spread the roleplay, you will have to roleplay on your own. So that's why they keep Roleplay in Regalia. And I understand this.
Plus, it gives you a different roleplay experience if you have a character who has many enemies.

This is true. Love you Boomy. Keep spreading the word! <3

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Thank you!

Friendly greetings, Theboomyfly.

 

[Terence29]

Ever since Ludwig became my main character, I made sure to have each of my characters be a different race. I just wanted a large diversity between them and wanted to experience something new. I've had a Slizzar (which I only played for a day but whatever), an Allar, a Tigran, a Ch'ien-Ji and a Crelin. Currently I'm working on a Shendar (first Nelfin character, though Shendar are none of the regular Nelfin c: ).

On the other hand however, it is encouraged to play Ailor as Regalia is basically the Ailor capital, and to avoid the amount of special snowflakes.

 

[Theboomyfly]

Ever since Ludwig became my main character, I made sure to have each of my characters be a different race. I just wanted a large diversity between them and wanted to experience something new. I've had a Slizzar (which I only played for a day but whatever), an Allar, a Tigran, a Ch'ien-Ji and a Crelin. Currently I'm working on a Shendar (first Nelfin character, though Shendar are none of the regular Nelfin c: ).

On the other hand however, it is encouraged to play Ailor as Regalia is basically the Ailor capital, and to avoid the amount of special snowflakes.

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Yes, I know that Regalia is a Ailor Capital, but I never said to dish your Ailor Characters. You keep an Ailor character, but also add a less popular race, as a second character. Just to gain new experiences and put some variety in the community. Most people their character lists only exist out of Ailors and other popular races. I'm just trying to point out that it could be good to have a variety, like you do. And I also believe staff should encourage this.

Friendly greetings, Theboomyfly.

 

[Manatee_]

ooooo i have a crabby Ur

 

[Silent_Ruler]

@Kiba Araqnuibo Here we go!


@Theboomyfly

Is this your way to inspire others to play as a Naylar?
Trust me, it is not going to work by screaming at them this way- not to be rude, but the title was already negative enough that I didn't bother to read the text.

Now that I've read it:

• You still have that coaching tone to your voice. Very unconvincing; in-fact, it would propel me to keep playing as a human.
• You're just stating the problem. Where are the solutions? It just sounds like someone is whining.
• Though I completely agree with your issue, I believe this is an incorrect approach to voice the concern.
• It is insulting that only a few ever expand the role-play universe, according to you.
• You appear to be selling yourself as one of the few who ever expand the role-play universe. Tell us what you've done before you do this. What authority have you to imply this?
• In the "contributions" title, you say that there can be more faction role-play. Yet... you say this is a contribution to role-play. Factions are not lore-compliant in that they are not acknowledged by the lore. Whats the point of inspiring lore-incompliance? It is just contradictory.
• We used to have more races in the first Regalia and SilverEdge. We've progressed from here. Don't you think it is a little... of a step down if we go back to that if not done properly?
• It is racially accurate for there to be more humans in Regalia than there are other races.
• I agree, we need to stop being that perfect elf/noble Ailor.
• Humans are power-seeking individuals. As players, we will always seek to have this power. The Noble Project inspired human role-play because we were lacking in it. Thus, your recommendation for a second character I support entirely.
• A possible solution could be adding special permissions to specific races. For example, a tigran cannot apply for any permissions as they cannot be nobility, be in the Violet Order, be magical, or an archaic bloodline among others. This discourages certain racial role-play. Though I do agree some races should remain this way.
• Good role-play is usually rewarded with nobility, archaic bloodlines, etc. We need commoners! Whats the point of everyone being noble if there are no peasants to play around with? I say we have three characters- one that is special with permissions and all, another which is a bullied race such as Naylar/Wulong/Dwarf, and another which is a normal, peasant commoner.
• ...For God's sake... please! We need to call out those supremely tall human characters! 6'10 humans are not very realistic today, and back them people used to be shorter because of malnutrition! 5'5 was the standard height for a male.
• There are more points, but I want to say the following:

I want to offer my help in creating a second thread that goes much more in-depth. For example, we need actual legitimate red-eyed vampires, and those things we posted above. Please, let me have your help- and let me help you as well- in creating it.

I do agree with your points though, don't take this comment as offensive.

 

[Theboomyfly]

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Sure, I would appreciate some help, if this thread is really 'offensive'. But first of all, I never ment this to be offensive, I just tried to explain my opinion. And yes, I know, sometimes my opinion can be realy black and white. I don't try to sell myself as the 'best roleplayer', because in al honesty, I'm probably crap it, because I haven't roleplayed for months. I'm neither trying to say that all roleplayers are shitty these days, because there are still good roleplayers out there, and people who are learning how to become one.
Perhaps the issue is, that I got over exited when writing this, so yeah, perhaps I wrote to much of my irritation in here. Anyhow, thanks for the feedback. And I would love to work together with you to write down a less 'offending' thread.

Friendly greetings, Theboomyfly.

 

[Theboomyfly]

Could a mod lock this, as I'm willing to rewrite my idea?

Friendly greetings, Theboomyfly.

 

[Billy_Rage]

I have started playing a Wulong, and have been thinking of other exotic races.

 

[Mecharic]

-remembers when Qadir were exotic-

Also, wouldn't it make more sense for there to not be many of these "rare & exotic" races in a city designed for humans?

 

[The Golem]

Most of the exotic races have good reason to stay out of Regalia

• Allar and Slizar just lost a war with Regalia, why would they go there?
• Wulong are in a war with the Chien-ji, don't they want to help their friends?
• Mekett think every other race is a degenerate, and they have a great purpose to fulfill. What would one gain by sitting in Regalia instead of furthering the great purpose?
• Dakkar are conflicted with the views of Hael and are constantly fighting themselves.
• I can't really say much for Dwarves, honestly.

As for my opinion, just stick with a semi popular race like the Yanar or the Maiar. They may be exotic, sure, but its easy to come up with a reason for them to come to Regalia. Playing a Mekett that freely traveled to Regalia that is not a Circci is hard enough, and playing a kind and empathetic Wulong brings up the question of special snowflakeism.

Flower Power!

 

[Lizmun]

I play a Dakkar, his name is Deha o3o

 

[Terence29]

Also, wouldn't it make more sense for there to not be many of these "rare & exotic" races in a city designed for humans?

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Think of Regalia a little like London. While it is meant to be the capital for the British people, there are foreigners everywhere, some even having their own district, at least that's what I experienced there. It's the same for Berlin in Germany and many other capital cities.

 

[Suzzie]

Think of Regalia a little like London. While it is meant to be the capital for the British people, there are foreigners everywhere, some even having their own district, at least that's what I experienced there. It's the same for Berlin in Germany and many other capital cities.

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New York City (Not a capital but you get the idea) and the surrounding area is another good example.

 

[GrunklePeter]

@Kiba Araqnuibo Here we go!


@Theboomyfly

Is this your way to inspire others to play as a Naylar?
Trust me, it is not going to work by screaming at them this way- not to be rude, but the title was already negative enough that I didn't bother to read the text.

Now that I've read it:

• You still have that coaching tone to your voice. Very unconvincing; in-fact, it would propel me to keep playing as a human.
• You're just stating the problem. Where are the solutions? It just sounds like someone is whining.
• Though I completely agree with your issue, I believe this is an incorrect approach to voice the concern.
• It is insulting that only a few ever expand the role-play universe, according to you.
• You appear to be selling yourself as one of the few who ever expand the role-play universe. Tell us what you've done before you do this. What authority have you to imply this?
• In the "contributions" title, you say that there can be more faction role-play. Yet... you say this is a contribution to role-play. Factions are not lore-compliant in that they are not acknowledged by the lore. Whats the point of inspiring lore-incompliance? It is just contradictory.
• We used to have more races in the first Regalia and SilverEdge. We've progressed from here. Don't you think it is a little... of a step down if we go back to that if not done properly?
• It is racially accurate for there to be more humans in Regalia than there are other races.
• I agree, we need to stop being that perfect elf/noble Ailor.
• Humans are power-seeking individuals. As players, we will always seek to have this power. The Noble Project inspired human role-play because we were lacking in it. Thus, your recommendation for a second character I support entirely.
• A possible solution could be adding special permissions to specific races. For example, a tigran cannot apply for any permissions as they cannot be nobility, be in the Violet Order, be magical, or an archaic bloodline among others. This discourages certain racial role-play. Though I do agree some races should remain this way.
• Good role-play is usually rewarded with nobility, archaic bloodlines, etc. We need commoners! Whats the point of everyone being noble if there are no peasants to play around with? I say we have three characters- one that is special with permissions and all, another which is a bullied race such as Naylar/Wulong/Dwarf, and another which is a normal, peasant commoner.
• ...For God's sake... please! We need to call out those supremely tall human characters! 6'10 humans are not very realistic today, and back them people used to be shorter because of malnutrition! 5'5 was the standard height for a male.
• There are more points, but I want to say the following:

I want to offer my help in creating a second thread that goes much more in-depth. For example, we need actual legitimate red-eyed vampires, and those things we posted above. Please, let me have your help- and let me help you as well- in creating it.

I do agree with your points though, don't take this comment as offensive.

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Ok... Here we go... Se don't mean to take out all humans and bring the 'others' we just say that we need more people roleplaying as different races, because as you read before, de just see Elfs and Humans, Elfs and Humans! When I first came to Massive... HOLY COW! I saw orcs, dwarves, nagas, a couple dakkars and even Maiars! Come on... How many of those do you see there these days? I onlt see 1/3 orcs, that are old members, some, but really small ammount of Maiars and dwarves and almost no Dakkar! We really need to get more people to play different races.

 

[Silent_Ruler]

-remembers when Qadir were exotic-

Also, wouldn't it make more sense for there to not be many of these "rare & exotic" races in a city designed for humans?

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Hence proving my point: Humans seek to play as the most powerful race.

Sure, I would appreciate some help, if this thread is really 'offensive'. But first of all, I never ment this to be offensive, I just tried to explain my opinion. And yes, I know, sometimes my opinion can be realy black and white. I don't try to sell myself as the 'best roleplayer', because in al honesty, I'm probably crap it, because I haven't roleplayed for months. I'm neither trying to say that all roleplayers are shitty these days, because there are still good roleplayers out there, and people who are learning how to become one.
Perhaps the issue is, that I got over exited when writing this, so yeah, perhaps I wrote to much of my irritation in here. Anyhow, thanks for the feedback. And I would love to work together with you to write down a less 'offending' thread.

Friendly greetings, Theboomyfly.

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Not offensive, just very... just... personal-trainer-screaming-at-you-like.

Dont say you're the worst role-player, because in all honesty- there is no actual standard. People are only bad if they want to be bad, and only actually be good if they consider themselves to be decent and willing to listen to advice- which is exactly what you did.

I do have to ask forgiveness for the utter harshness of my suggestions though. It made me seem like a hypocrite. My apologies.
((Now, lets get to work on that thread now, shall we? Let me just finish my homework >_<))

 

[MonMarty]

The idea of discrimination is fairly non existent and sort of in a reverse polarized situation right now. Most* role players don't play authentic homophobic zealous ignorant racist characters because it goes against their ideals or whatever. The negativity surrounding non Humans is often bloated out of proportion because people who don't roleplay only look at the writing of the lore and make a judgement on that.

Let people choose whatever race they want to play. As Rp staff we do not experience any issue from people strongly gravitating towards Humans, so neither should you.

 

[Omnomivore]

I've always wanted to try my hand at a Slizar character, but never bothered with fleshing one out because of a lack of lore.

Once the race rewrite for Slizar comes out, I'll most likely look at making one.

Though, knowing me, I'll mainly stick to N'omiel and only roleplay other characters once in a while.

 

[Mecharic]

• I can't really say much for Dwarves, honestly.

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They got sick of all the stature jokes.

 

[Mecharic]

Think of Regalia a little like London. While it is meant to be the capital for the British people, there are foreigners everywhere, some even having their own district, at least that's what I experienced there. It's the same for Berlin in Germany and many other capital cities.

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I would compare it to Rome during the Roman Empire. The Romans were happy there, but few others were, due to being lesser citizens. Also lots of slaves in Rome.

 

[Macroreptilia]

I'd highly suggest starting up a Naylar character. I'd love to see the community of them grow.

 

[leafnosedbat]

I think racial districts might go a ways toward encouraging better non-Human roleplay. Obviously Regalia is an Ailor city, but when your character is out of place everywhere, it can make role-playing less enjoyable.

 

[Absorbius]

I'd say more Thylan characters, but I know everyone's immediate reaction is: "But Onzo, I see hundreds of Thylans in Regalia!".

Count how many have an approved, or even existing character application. There's about 2. About 50% of the Thylans I see haven't even bothered to learn the lore. I even saw one pretending he was a dog, and was chasing squirrels and sticks.

Please can someone make a character application for a Thylan? Pleaaase?

 

[ApatheticLlama]

players only stick to overrated Races like a few Human and a few Nelfin Races.

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I wouldn't venture to call them overrated. They're simply the norm. Calling them overrated is like calling Cornflakes overrated - It's a pretty standard, vanilla breakfast cereal kept in the majority of houses that you can't go wrong with. Cornflakes takes little time to prepare, little effort to digest and is nutritionally decent (not great, but the metaphor stands).

Like cornflakes, these races are common. Like cornflakes, characters of these races are easy to make. They are easier to play correctly (we are humans, after all), and have less stereotypes and tropes assigned to them that allow you to play a character how you want, and not how the lore dictates their mentality should be as it might for Wulong, for example.

Furthermore, Regalia is the centre of human civilisation. I think it's good that most people opt to play humanoid races, as it more accurately shows how much humans and Nelfin outnumber all other races in Regalia.

 

[krios41]

I'd say more Thylan characters, but I know everyone's immediate reaction is: "But Onzo, I see hundreds of Thylans in Regalia!".

Count how many have an approved, or even existing character application. There's about 2. About 50% of the Thylans I see haven't even bothered to learn the lore. I even saw one pretending he was a dog, and was chasing squirrels and sticks.

Please can someone make a character application for a Thylan? Pleaaase?

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le sigh
if there was more lore zbout them so i could be sure about what i wrote i'd do it....

 

[Absorbius]

@ApatheticLlama

I agree, but instead of the ratio of Human to non-Human being 90:10, it should be more like 75:25 or 80:20. After all, Regalia is not only an Ailor city, it is also a big ol' trading hub.

@krios41

I've been roleplaying a Thylan for a long time, if you'd like I can answer some questions on the race.

 

[Eccetra]

I've always wanted to make the worlds first FEMALE DWARF!

But I'm absolutely terrible with secondary characters, so for now I'mma just gonna stick to Ni. But she's a Yanar and always has been, which is a semi-unpopular race I suppose?

Also I have yet to make a character app because, like others have said, it's like a legal document! It's scary... I would probably cry if I spent weeks of work on the app only to get that big REJECTED stamp on it!

 

[Absorbius]

@Eccetra

Don't let that discourage you! If you put even a bit of effort in it, the chances are 100 to 1 that it will be rejected. Generally, they tell you some things to change, then you change it, and then BAM. Approved.

 

[GrunklePeter]

I wouldn't venture to call them overrated. They're simply the norm. Calling them overrated is like calling Cornflakes overrated - It's a pretty standard, vanilla breakfast cereal kept in the majority of houses that you can't go wrong with. Cornflakes takes little time to prepare, little effort to digest and is nutritionally decent (not great, but the metaphor stands).

Like cornflakes, these races are common. Like cornflakes, characters of these races are easy to make. They are easier to play correctly (we are humans, after all), and have less stereotypes and tropes assigned to them that allow you to play a character how you want, and not how the lore dictates their mentality should be as it might for Wulong, for example.

Furthermore, Regalia is the centre of human civilisation. I think it's good that most people opt to play humanoid races, as it more accurately shows how much humans and Nelfin outnumber all other races in Regalia.

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I don't like cornflakes...

 

[Lithiel]

I remember chosing the elf because 1. I never got to play an elf in an extensive roleplay server like this before, and 2. at the time, the racial plug in was something I loved. ( Bow augmentation)
After almost a year being an elf, I finally started banching out because I feel I can handle more then one character and have created 2 Chi'ien ji characters. So far the experiance is lots of fun.
On a side note I experimented with a Yanar character before and I may rbing her back if I can balance the time. but for now- one step at a time....and I only have so much time to divide between work, school, and play.

 

[ApatheticLlama]

I don't like cornflakes...

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Some people like cornflakes, some don't. Some people like human characters, some don't.

People having different opinions on races is kind of the basis of this thread, no?

 

[1000phoenix]

The funny thing about this post is that I use to play Thylans and decided to try something new.

 

[GrunklePeter]

Some people like cornflakes, some don't. Some people like human characters, some don't.

People having different opinions on races is kind of the basis of this thread, no?

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Yes I didn't say that it wasn't. But it would be good to see people try new "cereal brands" instead of sticking to "cornflakes".

 

[JakkDhread]

I've always wanted to make the worlds first FEMALE DWARF!

But I'm absolutely terrible with secondary characters, so for now I'mma just gonna stick to Ni. But she's a Yanar and always has been, which is a semi-unpopular race I suppose?

Also I have yet to make a character app because, like others have said, it's like a legal document! It's scary... I would probably cry if I spent weeks of work on the app only to get that big REJECTED stamp on it!

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The REJECTED stamp is only used if we feel the character has so many issues, addressing them all within one review would be a waste of time. Or if the application has some other outstanding issue. If you put genuine time and effort into your application, and it doesn't break any of our roleplay rules, then you should be fine!

 

[Kibaa]

Playing a Mekett that freely traveled to Regalia that is not a Circci is hard enough

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You'd be very, very surprised. @SilentsAppeal