Massivecraft: A New Age

[ChrisVenom]

Note: The title is in no way a fact or most likely not true, it is just a way of expressing how I feel for MassiveCraft lately.​

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Currently, there has been a lot commotion and it seems to be, at the moment, Fighters V.S. Roleplayers. ​

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MassiveCraft was my first faction server to actually stay on when I joined the server, this was 1 year and 2 weeks ago (from 13/10/2013). There were a few reasons why I stayed.​

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- The server had a nice community.​

- It seem well structured and organized.​

- MCMMO.​

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I've noticed that all the role-players on this server are newer to the server than PvPers, a reason for this is that MassiveCraft wasn't seriously a role-play server in the past, the word "Role-Play" wasn't mentioned at all.​

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Within the last 4 months, MassiveCraft has had an absolute evolution in role-play, starting firstly when Regalia was released. ​

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Since then, I've been forced to PvP on different servers, due to how unsupported it was on MassiveCraft.​

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What I am trying to say is: ​

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-You have to give us fighters a chance.​

-Let us suggest, let those suggestions at least be acknowledged.​

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[BulbousDevourer]

Oh wow why can't you people stop with these threads.

 

[ChrisVenom]

Oh wow why can't you people stop with these threads.

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See, this is clearly an example of what I mean, it also indicates you're clearly a role player. Personally, I have nothing against you guys, but what you've just said is basically like me saying: "God, can you guys stop making role play announcements." Also, I assume when you said " can't you people " you mean fighters. This quote is clearly an example of the complete hate between the two "sides".

 

[SilverAlbatross]

See, this is clearly an example of what I mean, it also indicates you're clearly a role player. Personally, I have nothing against you guys, but what you've just said is basically like me saying: "God, can you guys stop making role play announcements." Also, I assume when you said " can't you people " you mean fighters. This quote is clearly an example of the complete hate between the two "sides".

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He was referring to people who make threads constantly about improving PvP and/or saying Massive is unfair/should be changed.
And so what if he's a roleplayer? Some pretty famous players PvP and RP.

 

[patrickdxs]

to quote MonMarty

1. "massive craft is a ROLE-PLAY server with PVP aspects"

2. "we have changed nothing to PvP because we want to focus on the quest plugin release first"

Nothing is wrong with PvP, something is wrong with the PvP community. That is not the staffs fault and they shouldn't be blamed for it. So stop telling them to change things that don't need to be changed and be patient.

 

[nray93]

Note: The title is in no way a fact or most likely not true, it is just a way of expressing how I feel for MassiveCraft lately.​

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Currently, there has been a lot commotion and it seems to be, at the moment, Fighters V.S. Roleplayers.

MassiveCraft was my first faction server to actually stay on when I joined the server, this was 1 year and 2 weeks ago (from 13/10/2013). There were a few reasons why I stayed.

- The server had a nice community.
- It seem well structured and organized.
- MCMMO.

I've noticed that all the role-players on this server are newer to the server than PvPers, a reason for this is that MassiveCraft wasn't seriously a role-play server in the past, the word "Role-Play" wasn't mentioned at all.

Within the last 4 months, MassiveCraft has had an absolute evolution in role-play, starting firstly when Regalia was released.

Since then, I've been forced to PvP on different servers, due to how unsupported it was on MassiveCraft.

What I am trying to say is:

-You have to give us fighters a chance.
-Let us suggest, let those suggestions at least be acknowledged.

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I think it was already mentioned that instead of making threads that whine about the current situation or what you really can´t stand you should rather organize your exact points (what exactly bothers you, why should it be changed, how could it be changed etc etc) and bring those out in a suggestion/discussion . Try to keep in mind that those should be (IMAO)
1. doable (without 10 millions lines of code)
2. balanced (try to avoid easily abuseable things or things that go boost one group of players above the rest or below the rest)
3. adding something to the server (be it better pvp/rp or more fairness etc etc)

Another point that bothers me on this post is its vagueness.
What do you mean with unsuportive (hint: delivering examples would help)?

"You have to give us fighters a chance"
A chance at what? At bowling? at riding pigs through regalia?

"-Let us suggest, let those suggestions at least be acknowledged."
Ok now you act like you can´t post suggestions because you are a fighter (im asuming you are one) which is simply not true. You , like any other member of this Forum that is not banned , have the ability to go to this forum here (http://forums.massivecraft.com/forums/feature-idea-discussion.29/) and post a suggestion thread.
Now to the second part, the acknowledgedment. From what I have seen the staff does notice the suggestions that are posted. Also some of the most wanted suggestions HAVE been accepted (like the removal of god apples and massive armor).

(I put it in code since a part of it would convert to a smiley otherwise)

TL:DR : Don´t whine. Try making constructive suggestions.

 

[ChrisVenom]

God please lock this thread someone, I tried reasoning but people look at it as whining, I don't care what they do with this server with RP or PVP but why do people donate? For PVP, name a premium feature that most benefits RP none, that is why most of the Roleplaying community are non prems, because they don't NEED to donate. Clearly the biased reached this thread before the opinions I wanted to hear, so I request that this thread is locked as there is no valid point in trying anymore. This will be the last time I talk about PVP here as people don't seen to actually read and listen

 

[ChrisVenom]

I think it was already mentioned that instead of making threads that whine about the current situation or what you really can´t stand you should rather organize your exact points (what exactly bothers you, why should it be changed, how could it be changed etc etc) and bring those out in a suggestion/discussion . Try to keep in mind that those should be (IMAO)
1. doable (without 10 millions lines of code)
2. balanced (try to avoid easily abuseable things or things that go boost one group of players above the rest or below the rest)
3. adding something to the server (be it better pvp/rp or more fairness etc etc)

Another point that bothers me on this post is its vagueness.
What do you mean with unsuportive (hint: delivering examples would help)?

"You have to give us fighters a chance"
A chance at what? At bowling? at riding pigs through regalia?

"-Let us suggest, let those suggestions at least be acknowledged."
Ok now you act like you can´t post suggestions because you are a fighter (im asuming you are one) which is simply not true. You , like any other member of this Forum that is not banned , have the ability to go to this forum here (http://forums.massivecraft.com/forums/feature-idea-discussion.29/) and post a suggestion thread.
Now to the second part, the acknowledgedment. From what I have seen the staff does notice the suggestions that are posted. Also some of the most wanted suggestions HAVE been accepted (like the removal of god apples and massive armor).

(I put it in code since a part of it would convert to a smiley otherwise)

TL:DR : Don´t whine. Try making constructive suggestions.

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This was what I was thinking when making this thread, I wished to make it long and informative like a lot of my other contributions to the forum. I admit, it sounds like a typical post of a arrogant PVPer but I didn't intend for it to be like this, I just cut it short as I knew no one would actually read all of it and start moaning before anything

 

[BulbousDevourer]

What, exactly, is the problem with PvP that so desperately needs to be fixed? Unless I've been mistaken this whole year I've been on this server, this is a ROLEPLAY server. And while PvP is a big part of it, the staff won't focus on just PvP, because just in case you've been living under a rock, the majority of Minecraft servers are just Hunger Games or "hardcore PvP faction servers" and very few are roleplay ones. The staff have been focusing more on roleplay the past couple months because for so long PvP has been the focus of this server, and now they're focusing on server roleplay to keep things balanced. If you can't wait a few months for the roleplay to start being improved, maybe this just isn't the right server for you.

 

[BulbousDevourer]

See, this is clearly an example of what I mean, it also indicates you're clearly a role player. Personally, I have nothing against you guys

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You shouldn't have anything against roleplayers, because this is a ROLEPLAY SERVER.

 

[nray93]

This was what I was thinking when making this thread, I wished to make it long and informative like a lot of my other contributions to the forum. I admit, it sounds like a typical post of a arrogant PVPer but I didn't intend for it to be like this, I just cut it short as I knew no one would actually read all of it and start moaning before anything

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So you say you´re bad luck ChrisVenom:

Makes long informative thread - people don´t read it completely and moan about it.

Makes short thread with the general idea - people complain about its vagueness and lack of information.

You shouldn't have anything against roleplayers, because this is a ROLEPLAY SERVER.

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It´s not a pure rp server last time I checked. It´s more like a PVP/RP hybrid with more focus on RP in the last few months (altough there were some pvp changes). Also I kinda find your reply a tiny bit rude.

 

[ChrisVenom]

What, exactly, is the problem with PvP that so desperately needs to be fixed? Unless I've been mistaken this whole year I've been on this server, this is a ROLEPLAY server. And while PvP is a big part of it, the staff won't focus on just PvP, because just in case you've been living under a rock, the majority of Minecraft servers are just Hunger Games or "hardcore PvP faction servers" and very few are roleplay ones. The staff have been focusing more on roleplay the past couple months because for so long PvP has been the focus of this server, and now they're focusing on server roleplay to keep things balanced. If you can't wait a few months for the roleplay to start being improved, maybe this just isn't the right server for you.

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Ok since it is a Roleplaying server, all PVPers should leave? They should stop donating? And your are saying that Roleplaying needs to be even MORE improved?

 

[ChrisVenom]

You shouldn't have anything against roleplayers, because this is a ROLEPLAY SERVER.

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Fighting is part of Roleplaying.

 

[patrickdxs]

(facepalm)

 

[SilverAlbatross]

Just... just stop.

Ok since it is a Roleplaying server, all PVPers should leave? They should stop donating? And your are saying that Roleplaying needs to be even MORE improved?

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When did he say the first two things? Point that out for me, I didn't see.
And staff are trying to make it the best it can be, and further progress it to be great.

Fighting is part of Roleplaying.

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Roleplay fights are usually one-on-one text-based fights.

MonMarty, I think you should see this thread, if you haven't already.

 

[Th3_Drunk_Monk]

This issue is being addressed and doesnt need another thread stating the same as everyone elses.

[Locking as requested]